She does not need to be. That is the point. She has over 4 years to grow into the job.

But she has clean hands when it comes to this second referendum insanity and she is not tarnished by the Corbyn brand either. Represents a northern seat and from what I have seen of her on the TV comes accross well.

The next Labour leaders job is not about holding the Tories to account in Parliament because they can do what they want. Not even sure there is much milage in trying to hold up anything because the public seem sick to death of the usual fisticuffs.

But hitting those lost Labour seats, building up the local partys and generally trying to recapature those lost tribal votes, one by one, can make a difference.

Starmer is one of the people primarily responsible for Labour getting smashed in the way that it is and that awful Long-Bailey woman is just more of the tired old Corbynista school. Achieves nothing.

Labour are staring into an abyss at the moment and I am seeing nothing to suggest they have even fully comprehended what happened to them on Thursday. Because the leading candidates are not bright people. If they were, then they would have understood the anger out there over Brexit and their failure to honour what they pledged in 2017.

To be fair to him, they all did. Labour Career path used to be land a northen tribal seat and pop up their once or twice a year to pat the natives on the head whilst swanning around N1 and making crass jokes about their consituencents.

It was UKIP that started the rot. People began to vote for them in the Euro's elections and that almost Pavlovian conditioning in terms of ticking the Labour box began to weaken. Hard research to back that up as well.

But loving his work this morning. Zero understanding about the impact of the second referendum madness. Apparently it was all down to Corbyn. LOL.

Well quite. And with both Starmer and Thornberry now very much in the race, the delicious irony of it all is beginning to taste wonderous.

Here we have the very two people INSTRUMENTAL in pushing the second referendum stance that got them spanked now being touted as the saviours.

You could not make this s*** up and confirms how myopic and narcissistic these R2's truly are. Especially Starmer. Moaning because he was side-lined in the election.

Actually rather gutted about that because I suspect him lecturing us proles about how we were really rather stupid voting leave and that we would be better off doing what the likes of him told us might have helped a few more Labour seats fall. Oh well, you cannot have everything.

Edited by Matov (18 Dec 2019 12.50pm)