He's reclining back in his armchair listening to his Stormzy album in his stab proof vest and 'F Boris' slippers.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Sep 2019 7.13pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

We have to deal with reality in terms of immigration.....Not acceptance or agreement perhaps but reality.

Replacement to minority status for whites in England and then onto the wider UK is set in stone. This will mean gradual 'frog in the water' but still huge and permanent cultural and hegemonic shifts in power as we move forward.....first in England as we already see in our cities and then onto the UK and Ireland at large. Birth rates mean that it is only a matter of time.

There is power....those that have it and those that don't. The only demographic in the world that is particularly tolerant of minorities is European.....altruism in a global world ultimately leads to the disappearance of your own group genetics....The East Asians were intelligent enough to understand this.

The only European demographics not concerned for the future are 'normies' who think that elites have their backs....or those who don't value the European identity or those wealthy enough to ultimately move to where the going is always the best.....their kids won't have to deal with the higher crime and violence rates and the social incohesion and rising anti white culture that will emerge.

Lots of people want to know what they can do about this and what the best steps are to take if they aren't looking forward to the nitty gritty of what this actually entails......Not the warm worded, philosophical, head in the clouds 'nothing to see here' that some will sell you.

The way I see it....unless something dramatic happens...which I don't foresee, this country is already lost. I saw an interview with Peter Hitchens the other day and his advice to anyone under thirty was to get out of the country.

That's something I see happening and quickening in pace as we move forward. White flight will move less from UK population areas and more to leaving the country.....as the brain drain occurs the competing for lowering resources isn't going to be pretty...hope that your kids don't stick around for that.

As to where?

Again...unless there is a change in direction...due to EU politics this will also happen all over Europe....apart from hold out countries. Still, once some critical loss has been reached there will at some point there will be a European state, which like Israel and East Asian countries will have real and maintained rules to protect the hegemony of that population. When that time comes that's the future.....But I don't see it until around 2050 personally.

But I very much doubt that the left will be welcome.

In the meantime, it's just try to live as far away from the cities as is economically possible.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Sep 2019 4.36pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Yep the States is one possibility however they are already further along the road than us in many states.

It's not to hard to see what they will try to do once there is permanent Democratic governance. They know that 'whites' own most of the weapons and they will try to disarm them. But before that they will probably try to break up any high 'white' percentage states.....none of it is rocket science.

Essentially the US is heading for some form of civil conflict.

As long as the Eastern European countries hold out I don't see that happening everywhere in Europe necessarily....as select countries will maintain their population advantage....flocking to one in particular once it clearly emerges will strengthen it considerably.

All far to much in the future to be certain of course but we might as well speculate.

It could be Russian or slavic generally....as they also reject forms of social liberalism.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Sep 2019 5.27pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

A well put argument but perhaps a little too far onto the pessimistic side. Maybe that is down to age. It also appears that you are equating white = intelligent, non-white = criminal/stupid, hopefully unintentionally.

If a points based immigration system comes in then the 'quality' of people coming in goes up, not down. Also, even if there is significant white flight, 'white brain drain' will simply be replaced by immigrant brain boosting.

This comes back yet again to the globalisation/automation discussion we've touched on many times, culture/identity/seperatism and so on is doomed to failure in an increasingly interconnected, inter-reliant, corporately dominated world. The trajectory is toward corporations with power, not politicians. And the big corporates of now, and the future have little interest in protecting borders – they want access to everyone at all times. One supermassive profit making population.

The left will, in fact, probably be welcome, because they are in charge of the largest corporate entities in the world.

Also on the genetics point – that's a subjective thing of course, more of an issue for you, less of an issue for me. I just see it as the inevitable course of the future of humanity that separatism eventually becomes homogenised into one big lump. Easier to sell to, make money out of and control.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

Well, it would certainly be nicer if I'm wrong....there's little doubt of that.

The 'white' and intelligence debate is a distraction that essentially is besides the point really. It isn't going to make any real diffence to the demographic outcomes...those are averages anyway and regardless whites aren't the most intelligent group anyway and the reasons for European success is only partly down to intelligence.....other genetic characteristics are also very important....the higher level of altruism that lends itself to its own destruction for example.....also things like geography also has its place.

When I referred to the East Asians being too intelligent to lose hegemonic control in their own countries.....Essentially I mean that they are less altruistic than Europeans, which as that ensures group dominance can be seen as better for their own group self interest.

Like I said, same result just slightly delayed....successful people bring in their families and the reality of 'regression to the mean' takes affect over time.

I've thought about it quite a lot since those discussions. I think this vision for the future might be accurate for parts of the world but I don't see identity being washed away as you do.....Maybe over very long time scales but anything that far off is speculative.

It's an inherent factor of human....tribalism isn't going to disappear...Only the genes of the altruistic will submit to that....which largely appears to be Europeans. Look around the world outside of the western nihilistic bubble. The East Asians are very corporate but they aren't buying into the 'borg' concept.

I'm not so sure about that....corporations can be broken up and political change can occur in them via rule changes.

I think very long term....in terms of genetics...due to augmentation such as automation and other technolgies I think a form of this is probable. Essentially what does or doesn't happen in hundreds of years is besides the point of now.

As stated I don't see tribalism disappearing on short term time scales and corporate power divorced of national control?.....Mmmm...I think that's a Europeanism.

While what you say contains elements that are possible it's kind of divorced from time scales and what's the better course of action for what you want for your genetics.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Sep 2019 2.23am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Very good point