I can’t remember but the profit margins become a factor somehow. I remember the club shop in Allders in Croydon was closed by Jordan because it made a loss. Thing is, I feel having shirts available and sold in a wider area is a worthwhile loss leader when you’re in the Prem.

(But unfortunately we’re now losing money and have lost £45 mil plus what we don’t know about yet and the Americans want it paid back. Hopefully they don’t want to damage our survival chances with that until they sell their shares because their shares will become worth n@ff all, unless they calculate that loss might be smaller than the current annual losses mounted up if they use too much of the eventual Zaha cash to evolve the team)

COYP

Ok but I don’t go in for this disassociation of operations and transfer fees in a business that survives with transfer fees and transfer business, payments and instalments high on its agenda.

Sure we’ll be seeing an end to paying Liverpool millions at some point, but in the meantime we’re still needing to buy players, juggle wages around we’re struggling with and that’s with the US shareholders being owed the full total of the AWB cash sale.

The model is really at full capacity and they either have to sell Wilf or invest a little until then. As their asset will be worth so little and the loss so big after relegation it seems they’re prepared to do the sensible thing and give us all a chance of saving our sorry &rses.

I agree we should be makin a Palace shirt an impulse purchase in the south east rather than a trip to Selhurst or buying online from cpfc.

COYP

not getting a half way decent right back in before the deadline is not only amateurish, it's unforgivable, the Zaha saga I don't blame SP for - we never received an appropriate bid - we could have taken a hit and sold at 70mil but 80 was rightly the minimum and a lot of business hinged on Zaha's sale - but they had plenty of time for a right back, and a striker. I don't go with all those who are already writing off Cahill and McCarthy, too early, and we could do with developing players rather than getting the finished article all the time (apart from Sorloth) but they are competent experienced players of proven quality - I don't think McC is a sick note either, the injuries have come from challenges rather than his breaking down, and he's been fit since October. Ayew gives us back up, he's flaky but he does have genuine technical ability and apart from Wilf and Andros we have no wingers, but we needed better, Sarr who went to Watford we could have got as he can play anywhere across the front three and would partly fill the gap left when Wilf goes. So yes, on a scale of 1 -10 where 1 is prostitution and 10 is voluntary work I'd put us at 7.5 - we really are rather amateur.

Happened agin in the LH today. Spent £30 odd on food/drinks but was told cannot give loyalty points due to an issue but....we will give double points next game!! WTF so basically any money spent yesterday (and last week) the points are lost. Anyone know who I can contact at the club about this? Although I suspect it will be pointless excercise

Warm soft drinks again for first game of the season as predicted again. £2 for a warm 500ml bottle of coke.

When do they first turn the fridges on? 3.30?

COYP

Good one!

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