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ex hibitionist Hastings 16 Jul 19 9.18pm | |
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I'm not trying to be controversial but I totally disagree with the Bruce bashers - loyalty in football barely lasts beyond one defeat, certainly for fans, for chairmen maybe four defeats, when Bruce walked out on us it was bcos he'd already made a bond at Brum at the end of his playing career where his desired return as future manager was made explicit - Jordan really pissed him off when he was here, remember SJ has mellowed and matured he was embarrassing back then, we beat Grimsby 5-0 in a home game, Jordan complained to Bruce that we shouldn't have relaxed after the fifth goal, we beat Everton away on pens in the league cup, Jordan complained that the keeper he'd brought in had dived the wrong way for each of their penalties, you get one go as being a football manager, there is no more fickle or precarious job, and if another better job comes along you have every right to take it - the Brum move was a step sideways but SJ was the straw that broke the camel's back imho, doesn't always work, look at Doog and Bolton, but the vitriol Bruce gets when he comes back here is a backhanded compliment, we played the best football under him since Venables first time round, and his eye for a player with a default level of skill against a player playing above himself is exceptional, he did wonders at Brum and at Wigan, and he'll keep Toon in mid table, I'm no nationalist but I predict a bit of a renaissance for English managers, Smith at Villa will surprise, Wilder might, Potter could too sadly, but Bruce is a much better manager than Mark Hughes, his only failure is Sunderland but Pep would struggle there, it's a vortex of grim, miserable failure, Bruce just looks after himself, why should he care, no fan or chairman cares about him unless form and results are good. It's tough on Wednesday but lambasting Bruce for being mercenary is cr*p, as Simon Jordan explained on Talksport today: "he's a bloody good manager".
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ChrisGC Wantage 16 Jul 19 11.01pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
I was thinking about some unemployed managers only the other week, the likes of Pulis,Pardew,Hughes,Moyes,Coleman,Allardyce.Most of these have been out of work for over a year and apart from Allardyce recently,one never hears them linked to any clubs.Brighton went for Potter, Swansea for Cooper, Derby for Cocu, Middlesbrough for Woodgate,Nottm For for Lamouchi etc. I suspect they might come into consideration later in the season if certain clubs are struggling and in danger of relegation. About time. Other than Allardyce who is a specialist, the rest are god awful dinosaurs. Ironically, Pulis's greatest achievement was probably keeping us up.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Jul 19 11.36pm | |
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Originally posted by ex hibitionist
I'm not trying to be controversial but I totally disagree with the Bruce bashers - loyalty in football barely lasts beyond one defeat, certainly for fans, for chairmen maybe four defeats, when Bruce walked out on us it was bcos he'd already made a bond at Brum at the end of his playing career where his desired return as future manager was made explicit - Jordan really pissed him off when he was here, remember SJ has mellowed and matured he was embarrassing back then, we beat Grimsby 5-0 in a home game, Jordan complained to Bruce that we shouldn't have relaxed after the fifth goal, we beat Everton away on pens in the league cup, Jordan complained that the keeper he'd brought in had dived the wrong way for each of their penalties, you get one go as being a football manager, there is no more fickle or precarious job, and if another better job comes along you have every right to take it - the Brum move was a step sideways but SJ was the straw that broke the camel's back imho, doesn't always work, look at Doog and Bolton, but the vitriol Bruce gets when he comes back here is a backhanded compliment, we played the best football under him since Venables first time round, and his eye for a player with a default level of skill against a player playing above himself is exceptional, he did wonders at Brum and at Wigan, and he'll keep Toon in mid table, I'm no nationalist but I predict a bit of a renaissance for English managers, Smith at Villa will surprise, Wilder might, Potter could too sadly, but Bruce is a much better manager than Mark Hughes, his only failure is Sunderland but Pep would struggle there, it's a vortex of grim, miserable failure, Bruce just looks after himself, why should he care, no fan or chairman cares about him unless form and results are good. It's tough on Wednesday but lambasting Bruce for being mercenary is cr*p, as Simon Jordan explained on Talksport today: "he's a bloody good manager". So Newcastle will stay up then?
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ChrisGC Wantage 16 Jul 19 11.39pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
So Newcastle will stay up then? I've got Brighton, Newcastle and Sheff united for the drop, although I've got a horrible feeling this is our year
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Jul 19 12.06am | |
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Originally posted by ChrisGC
I've got Brighton, Newcastle and Sheff united for the drop, although I've got a horrible feeling this is our year One season there won't be three teams worse than us. However, definitely Newcastle who struggled last season and will be worse. Brighton have not replaced players well - yet nor have we. Villa have bought. Norwich and Sheff haven't bought much.
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BarEagle Monmouth 17 Jul 19 12.48am | |
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Originally posted by ex hibitionist
I'm not trying to be controversial but I totally disagree with the Bruce bashers - loyalty in football barely lasts beyond one defeat, certainly for fans, for chairmen maybe four defeats, when Bruce walked out on us it was bcos he'd already made a bond at Brum at the end of his playing career where his desired return as future manager was made explicit - Jordan really pissed him off when he was here, remember SJ has mellowed and matured he was embarrassing back then, we beat Grimsby 5-0 in a home game, Jordan complained to Bruce that we shouldn't have relaxed after the fifth goal, we beat Everton away on pens in the league cup, Jordan complained that the keeper he'd brought in had dived the wrong way for each of their penalties, you get one go as being a football manager, there is no more fickle or precarious job, and if another better job comes along you have every right to take it - the Brum move was a step sideways but SJ was the straw that broke the camel's back imho, doesn't always work, look at Doog and Bolton, but the vitriol Bruce gets when he comes back here is a backhanded compliment, we played the best football under him since Venables first time round, and his eye for a player with a default level of skill against a player playing above himself is exceptional, he did wonders at Brum and at Wigan, and he'll keep Toon in mid table, I'm no nationalist but I predict a bit of a renaissance for English managers, Smith at Villa will surprise, Wilder might, Potter could too sadly, but Bruce is a much better manager than Mark Hughes, his only failure is Sunderland but Pep would struggle there, it's a vortex of grim, miserable failure, Bruce just looks after himself, why should he care, no fan or chairman cares about him unless form and results are good. It's tough on Wednesday but lambasting Bruce for being mercenary is cr*p, as Simon Jordan explained on Talksport today: "he's a bloody good manager". The occasional typo is fine. Your post was not actually that bad but the occasional fullstop [.] may assist in deciphering. No?
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ex hibitionist Hastings 17 Jul 19 7.09pm | |
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Originally posted by BarEagle
The occasional typo is fine. Your post was not actually that bad but the occasional fullstop [.] may assist in deciphering. No? As Spike Milligan once said about Chris Evans: "the best thing I can wish you is an early death, or leprosy".
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jul 19 7.14pm | |
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Bruce has got a really tough job at Newcastle.No new signings in the window and I have perused that 23 of their 42 PL goals last season came from Perez and Rondon who are no longer at the club. Edited by Willo (17 Jul 2019 7.20pm)
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 17 Jul 19 7.46pm | |
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Originally posted by BarEagle
The occasional typo is fine. Your post was not actually that bad but the occasional fullstop [.] may assist in deciphering. No? He is a teacher. In Hastings mind you.
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ex hibitionist Hastings 17 Jul 19 10.22pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
He is a teacher. In Hastings mind you. may I refer you to my previous post
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Jul 19 8.27am | |
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It has been reported that Bruce was 11th choice at Newcastle and wasn't on the original shortlist.Also reported that he will have £90 Mill to spend at Newcastle. Sheff Wed have issued a statement saying that there are still legal issues to be resolved regarding Bruce and his coaching team leaving the club and joining Newcastle.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 20 Jul 19 2.33pm | |
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i reckon Brucie the Elephant is good at managing a relegation fight. Exactly what Newcastle need. not as good as Rafa Benitez, but may be enough to keep them up.
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