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 DanH  SW2 18 Dec 18 9.45pm |
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I still can’t get my head around all this bollocks that all you’re happy to be poorer just to have this misguided sense of ‘sovereignty’, which we have anyway, and will never go back to how you want it to be because technology has made the world irrevocably smaller. Adapt or die. Which is what most of you guys will before my generation anyway.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 18 Dec 18 9.47pm |
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the Polish Government stands up for Polish people. A beacon of light in a sea of EU darkness.
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| DanH SW2 18 Dec 18 9.50pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
the Polish Government stands up for Polish people. A beacon of light in a sea of EU darkness. Warmed up from Saturday yet?
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| Badger11 Beckenham 18 Dec 18 9.53pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
I still can’t get my head around all this bollocks that all you’re happy to be poorer just to have this misguided sense of ‘sovereignty’, which we have anyway, and will never go back to how you want it to be because technology has made the world irrevocably smaller. Adapt or die. Which is what most of you guys will before my generation anyway. I agree the world is a lot smaller and more competitive we have to be nimble and not go back to 1950's-1970s which was a disaster for us as we just coalesced. However I see nothing within the large protection bloc called the EU that suggest they will be up to the challenges ahead some of which we cannot foresee. I also do not accept that we will be poorer post Brexit. The truth is that the experts have a terrible track record on predicting the future. We maybe poorer outside the EU but we maybe worse off within the EU. I don't think you could ever prove this one way or the other it will just be an opinion.
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| steve1984 18 Dec 18 9.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Yeah, sounds pretty s***e....but if the alternative was losing my culture and country I'd accept it. I already explained that actually Hungary has a massive labour shortage and no immigrants. So how are they in danger of losing their culture or even more melodramatically their country? Hungary has no immigrants! The refugees continued walking straight into Austria. They're signed up to Schengen, completely open borders, obliged to allow any EU citizen in. And yet there aren't any foreigners living there. You didn't comment on this last time. Perhaps you'd care to explain how they are in danger of losing their culture? Edited by steve1984 (18 Dec 2018 10.03pm)
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 18 Dec 18 9.57pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
I still can’t get my head around all this bollocks... oh methinks that the gentleman doth protest too much
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| steve1984 18 Dec 18 9.58pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
If Hungry is a democracy then the people will not doubt vote this lot out. If they are not allowed to do that then it is just another tyrant government. But the good news is that the EU will ride to the rescue of the Hungarian people. Maybe, err .... No the Hungarian people will come to their own rescue. Just like they did in 1956 when we were busy in Egypt proving that we're no longer a global power. A lesson that 62 years later some people still haven't learnt.
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| steve1984 18 Dec 18 9.59pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
the Polish Government stands up for Polish people. A beacon of light in a sea of EU darkness. Which I guess explains why there are 1,000,000 of them over here. Ungrateful b******s.
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| Stirlingsays 18 Dec 18 10.03pm |
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Originally posted by steve1984
I already explained that actually Hungary has a massive labour shortage and no immigrants. So how are they in danger of losing their culture or even more melodramatically their country? No immigrants in Hungary? Weren't you an immigrant in Hungary? Errrr.....You say you spent some time on Electric Avenue? Electric Avenue actually use to be teeming with English culture. How about looking for the English culture in Savile Town....have a look for that gem. Where's the English culture in the inner cities in London? Hungary only have to look at the UK and France and read posts from people like yourself to see what those who propose changes will lead to. They aren't stupid......No splattered children on their pavements from foreign imported terrorism for them. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Dec 2018 10.04pm)
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| Badger11 Beckenham 18 Dec 18 10.03pm |
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Originally posted by steve1984
No the Hungarian people will come to their own rescue. Just like they did in 1956 when we were busy in Egypt proving that we're no longer a global power. A lesson that 62 years later some people still haven't learnt. Here I agree with you. We are not a global power and I for one would be quite happy if we stopped acting like one. We are however a significant economy and we have a proud democratic history so from time to time other countries and people do look to us for leadership. But I do not want to invade another country unless they are an actual threat. Tony Blair and Iraq / Afghanistan was a disgrace.
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| steve1984 18 Dec 18 10.08pm | |
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There's a massive labour shortage and no immigrants. The only meaningful minority are gypsies. There used to be quite a few Jews. You can't accept it when someone points out how little you know. You have zero knowledge on this subject but still you choose to stick your head over the parapet.
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| steve1984 18 Dec 18 10.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
we have a proud democratic history so from time to time other countries and people do look to us for leadership. Yeh the world is looking to us for leadership right now. And wondering where it is.
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