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steve1984 02 Dec 18 3.07pm | |
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I agree, we should leave the EU without an agreement. But I don't think we will.
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Stirlingsays 02 Dec 18 4.43pm | |
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Originally posted by Matov
And boy, do they hate it when the narrative fails to him home. Let's be honest, all this noise about a 'peoples vote' boils down to nothing more than petulant bad losing. That Remainers had assumed both the moral and intellectual high ground, having all the heavy support behind them both in terms of high finance and high celebrity and us grotty little proles then have the audacity to ignore them. Many of them felt humiliated on June 24th hence why they are refusing to accept it. And it will be an eternal shame on this country that people are still openly discussing about making us vote again. The Leave or Remain issue was settled in June 2016. The people pushing for this second vote hold us Leavers in utter contempt. People need to understand and accept that. With the BBC merely representing that. The whole episode is an exercise in displaying to those 'woke' enough to notice that we don't have much democracy in this country....or indeed even less in Europe. It's mainly rule by elites....whether those elites are within the multinational corporations or within governance. They are doing all they can to over-turn 2016......all this merry-go-round looks like an exercise in justifying another vote to me. At least in theory we can vote out the elites within the British parliament....but in truth when all you have on offer are practically as one on the corrupt gravy train that is the EU.....what do you do.
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.TUX. 02 Dec 18 8.39pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The whole episode is an exercise in displaying to those 'woke' enough to notice that we don't have much democracy in this country....or indeed even less in Europe. It's mainly rule by elites....whether those elites are within the multinational corporations or within governance. They are doing all they can to over-turn 2016......all this merry-go-round looks like an exercise in justifying another vote to me. At least in theory we can vote out the elites within the British parliament....but in truth when all you have on offer are practically as one on the corrupt gravy train that is the EU.....what do you do.
Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Dec 2018 4.44pm) Disagree. Indoctrination > Thinking for yourself.
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Stirlingsays 02 Dec 18 9.09pm | |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Disagree. Indoctrination > Thinking for yourself.
Good to see you back and posting.
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.TUX. 02 Dec 18 9.33pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Good to see you back and posting. It's all been a bit 'same old same old' lately tbh bud............and in fairness all i've done is continue the bleeding trend
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dannyboy1978 07 Dec 18 6.57pm | |
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BBC News - No-deal Brexit: Disruption at Dover 'could last six months'
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W12 07 Dec 18 7.21pm | |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
BBC News - No-deal Brexit: Disruption at Dover 'could last six months' Like the treasury warnings before the vote it’s all a lot of bollox.
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Raven South Croydon 08 Dec 18 1.11pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The whole episode is an exercise in displaying to those 'woke' enough to notice that we don't have much democracy in this country....or indeed even less in Europe. It's mainly rule by elites....whether those elites are within the multinational corporations or within governance. They are doing all they can to over-turn 2016......all this merry-go-round looks like an exercise in justifying another vote to me. At least in theory we can vote out the elites within the British parliament....but in truth when all you have on offer are practically as one on the corrupt gravy train that is the EU.....what do you do.
Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Dec 2018 4.44pm) Yeah, Irvine Welsh wrote a really good article just before the referendum saying pretty much this, and whichever way we voted, one set of elites was going to win out while nothing really gets much better for the rest of us, arguing as we have been over things like sovereignty, immigration, the democratic deficit of the EU etc. it's pretty much right. We've just picked the disaster capitalists and American corporations picking off what's left of our public services instead of the fairly awful people who've hitherto been in charge making peoples lives miserable.
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Stirlingsays 08 Dec 18 1.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Raven
Yeah, Irvine Welsh wrote a really good article just before the referendum saying pretty much this, and whichever way we voted, one set of elites was going to win out while nothing really gets much better for the rest of us, arguing as we have been over things like sovereignty, immigration, the democratic deficit of the EU etc. it's pretty much right. We've just picked the disaster capitalists and American corporations picking off what's left of our public services instead of the fairly awful people who've hitherto been in charge making peoples lives miserable. Underneath it all that's undoubtedly true. We are all pawns in a wider game of the more wealthy basically rigging the system to try to ensure they stay wealthy...or become more wealthy. Still, I'm happy to stick up two fingers to the EU. But I'm under no illusions.....it's always 'Meet the new boss....he's the same as the old boss.' That's the nature of power......automation will change this dynamic....but they will rig that too....but even so hopefully it improves things generally. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Dec 2018 1.27pm)
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elgrande bedford 08 Dec 18 2.20pm | |
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It all smells like "if we don't join the euro we will suffer" bollocks again to me.
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Badger11 Beckenham 08 Dec 18 2.26pm | |
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Originally posted by W12
Like the treasury warnings before the vote it’s all a lot of bollox. This is all based on the assumption that the UK authorities decide to impose customs checks thus causing a back log. We could just waive these checks in the short term until we are ready to implement a more robust process. in other words no visible change from today. There are always options if you want them. But I guess a Remainer government would prefer to cause chaos and then tell us "we told you so".
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steeleye20 Croydon 08 Dec 18 2.44pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
This is all based on the assumption that the UK authorities decide to impose customs checks thus causing a back log. We could just waive these checks in the short term until we are ready to implement a more robust process. in other words no visible change from today. There are always options if you want them. But I guess a Remainer government would prefer to cause chaos and then tell us "we told you so". A Remainer government would simply continue as it is now without any of these problems.
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