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Hrolf The Ganger 17 Nov 18 10.53am | |
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Dear Left wing research organisation. I'd quite like a new 4k 55inch TV to replace my 50 inch 1080p. I don't use food banks but I haven't paid off my mortgage just yet and the kids do ask for money regularly. Do I qualify as poor? I am prepared to make a written statement blaming the Tories for everything ever. Yours sincerely Hrolf.
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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 17 Nov 18 10.57am | |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Ah the good old days when men were men eh? And even you were a young optimistic whippet. Well maybe that’s going too far. Can I get some of those rose tinted glasses or do they only get handed out to bitter, dislllusioned and unfulfilled ethno nationalists. Actually quite satisfying to see the oft dismissed reasoning behind such viewpoints qualified with such gumption. Stirring stuff How old are you?
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Joe Bloggs Nr Norwich 17 Nov 18 12.21pm | |
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Many of the politicians have zero experience or knowledge of how " normal family's live their lives and we are governed by both main parties more on the lines of ideology than common sense. Some things are just plain wrong or should be irrespective of political parties Austerity not shared by the population. We say that we need immigration but do not have the common sense to see that requires housing. ! was brought up in an era of bombs and bomb sites and little did I imagine that progress would lead to food banks, such a shameful and disgraceful state of affairs. The 2016 referendum if nothing else showed how out of touch the politican's are. Your lot did that, no your lot did so and so, says everything about the way our country is run. We have an asylum and we truly have too many idiots running it, Common sense and decency "come on down" Edited by Joe Bloggs (17 Nov 2018 1.06pm)
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Midlands Eagle 17 Nov 18 1.20pm | |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Ah the good old days when men were men eh? And even you were a young optimistic whippet. Well maybe that’s going too far. Can I get some of those rose tinted glasses or do they only get handed out to bitter, dislllusioned and unfulfilled ethno nationalists. Actually quite satisfying to see the oft dismissed reasoning behind such viewpoints qualified with such gumption. Stirring stuff It's a shame that you couldn't manage a sensible response rather than a collection of meaningless soundbites
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PalazioVecchio south pole 17 Nov 18 3.14pm | |
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Originally posted by Joe Bloggs
you been to poverty stricken Dagenham recently ? the high Street seems to be full of blokes , blokes and more blokes. With the odd granny thrown in here and there for decoration. Edited by PalazioVecchio (17 Nov 2018 3.20pm)
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serial thriller The Promised Land 17 Nov 18 4.38pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Poverty is relative to what level you put against it. Very true. We essentially outlawed extreme poverty when we began setting up the welfare state in the early 20th century, which meant that even if you were unemployed, there would be indiscriminate help given to you as a citizen, to make sure you didn't have to eat your own dog or starve to death on the streets. After decades of a well functioning, cost effective welfare system, however, we are returning to an era where social provisions are being taken away. Tax credits are being cut by over a billion a year. Family support by 500 mill pa, disability benefits by 350 mill a year...the list goes on. The resolution foundation has found that while pensioners will see their benefits enshrined, the poorest third of welfare recipients will shoulder 2/3rds of the cuts by 2020. Meanwhile, local authorities are losing over 40% of their funding, meaning an end to refuges, employment services and social housing. And if you are unjustly treated as thousands are, legal aid has been wiped out and cuts to magistrates courts means you almost certainly won't find justice. This was a political choice. Even Hammond said as much last week! It means that not only relative poverty but absolute poverty are on the increase, slowly, in the 5th largest economy in the world. Was it immigrants who made that choice? Was it immigration that drove austerity? No. But it is immigrants, many who have worked, paid tax and even served this country who are being affected, as well as millions of natives. As the UN commissioner said, open your eyes if you can't see poverty in the UK.
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Stirlingsays 17 Nov 18 4.53pm | |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Was it immigrants who made that choice? Was it immigration that drove austerity? No. But it is immigrants, many who have worked, paid tax and even served this country who are being affected, as well as millions of natives. As the UN commissioner said, open your eyes if you can't see poverty in the UK. Firstly....I don't give a flying monkeys what a UN commissioner thinks. I don't just automatically give credence to a credential. As for immigration, Non EU immigration over the years 1995-2011 cost this country over 118 billion. How honest were the left over this.....this was revealed over their gritted teeth. Yes, types and amounts of immigration are damaging to the country. In a world where we have less and less work for low IQ people bringing in low IQ people is just a burden. I'd have required passed IQ tests and language test passes for immigrants.
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Stirlingsays 17 Nov 18 4.59pm | |
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The problem with the left is that they run out of other people's money. A very famous person once said something like that. The far left constantly lie about what is possible.....You can't force the wealthy to pay because the wealthy can leave. In the end it's the working class who suffer the most just as it's the working class who have always ended up voting them out.....then they wait around until there are enough young green naive people about to believe their fairy tales for them to become a force again. If someone like Corbyn gets in.....the wealthy are going to flood out of this country like rats leaving a sinking ship. Investment will flat line. After a few years of that all this waffle about what poverty is.....well that will seem like a sick joke.
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Joe Bloggs Nr Norwich 17 Nov 18 5.11pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
you been to poverty stricken Dagenham recently ? the high Street seems to be full of blokes , blokes and more blokes. With the odd granny thrown in here and there for decoration. Edited by PalazioVecchio (17 Nov 2018 3.20pm) Nothing to do with the point I was making. If 300,000 net immigrants are coming to the UK each year and zero housing exists or are being built to house them,then you have a serious problem. A shortage will exist and prices increase affecting every one. I have not been down Dagenham street ever, that may be a particular problem to the area but like the wider topic, one that our less than bright politicians have created and not dealt with. I did not make any comments about immigrants or the creation of wealth.
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Pussay Patrol 17 Nov 18 5.15pm | |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Very true. We essentially outlawed extreme poverty when we began setting up the welfare state in the early 20th century, which meant that even if you were unemployed, there would be indiscriminate help given to you as a citizen, to make sure you didn't have to eat your own dog or starve to death on the streets. After decades of a well functioning, cost effective welfare system, however, we are returning to an era where social provisions are being taken away. Tax credits are being cut by over a billion a year. Family support by 500 mill pa, disability benefits by 350 mill a year...the list goes on. The resolution foundation has found that while pensioners will see their benefits enshrined, the poorest third of welfare recipients will shoulder 2/3rds of the cuts by 2020. Meanwhile, local authorities are losing over 40% of their funding, meaning an end to refuges, employment services and social housing. And if you are unjustly treated as thousands are, legal aid has been wiped out and cuts to magistrates courts means you almost certainly won't find justice. This was a political choice. Even Hammond said as much last week! It means that not only relative poverty but absolute poverty are on the increase, slowly, in the 5th largest economy in the world. Was it immigrants who made that choice? Was it immigration that drove austerity? No. But it is immigrants, many who have worked, paid tax and even served this country who are being affected, as well as millions of natives. As the UN commissioner said, open your eyes if you can't see poverty in the UK. excellent, sensible post The problem is as long as people blame immigration for all the countries problems, governments will get away with it. More and more people are waking up to it but others still don't realise they're being conned. A bit like the joke: ‘A banker, a worker, and an immigrant are sitting at a table with 20 cookies. ‘The banker takes 19 cookies and warns the worker: “Watch out, the immigrant is going to take your cookie away.”’
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kingdowieonthewall Sussex, ex-Cronx. 17 Nov 18 5.38pm | |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Very true. We essentially outlawed extreme poverty when we began setting up the welfare state in the early 20th century, which meant that even if you were unemployed, there would be indiscriminate help given to you as a citizen, to make sure you didn't have to eat your own dog or starve to death on the streets. After decades of a well functioning, cost effective welfare system, however, we are returning to an era where social provisions are being taken away. Tax credits are being cut by over a billion a year. Family support by 500 mill pa, disability benefits by 350 mill a year...the list goes on. The resolution foundation has found that while pensioners will see their benefits enshrined, the poorest third of welfare recipients will shoulder 2/3rds of the cuts by 2020. Meanwhile, local authorities are losing over 40% of their funding, meaning an end to refuges, employment services and social housing. And if you are unjustly treated as thousands are, legal aid has been wiped out and cuts to magistrates courts means you almost certainly won't find justice. This was a political choice. Even Hammond said as much last week! It means that not only relative poverty but absolute poverty are on the increase, slowly, in the 5th largest economy in the world. Was it immigrants who made that choice? Was it immigration that drove austerity? No. But it is immigrants, many who have worked, paid tax and even served this country who are being affected, as well as millions of natives. As the UN commissioner said, open your eyes if you can't see poverty in the UK. serial,
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steeleye20 Croydon 17 Nov 18 5.40pm | |
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How depressing that the UN representative found our politicians 'completely in denial'. All they have to do is go and see for themselves.
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