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Hrolf The Ganger 02 Nov 18 5.06pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Nah. Wide open. Try reading the reports. Sole cause of death was not the wrists. Also certainly not psychosis. ‘People like you’ LOLE. You mean ones without childhood issues, overbearing inferiority complexes, feelings of regret and inadequacy and social awkwardness driving a constant irrational fear and hatred of authority? Plus bitterness. Lots and lots of bitterness. If we must do amateur psychology. Sounds like you are in denial about some of your own issues and compensate by attributing them to others. It's called projection. Don't give up your day job Sigmund.
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Nah. Wide open. Try reading the reports. Sole cause of death was not the wrists. Also certainly not psychosis.

‘People like you’ LOLE. You mean ones without childhood issues, overbearing inferiority complexes, feelings of regret and inadequacy and social awkwardness driving a constant irrational fear and hatred of authority? Plus bitterness. Lots and lots of bitterness.

If we must do amateur psychology. Sounds like you are in denial about some of your own issues and compensate by attributing them to others.

It's called projection.

Don't give up your day job Sigmund.

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silvertop Portishead 03 Nov 18 10.47am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Violence orchestrated by the far Left, Anarchists, Antifa and all the other assorted loons has been commonplace. Where have you been? Not really what I said. And if resources are being diverted from tracking those groups to right wing loon groups then you have an allie in this argument.
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Portishead 03 Nov 18 10.47am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Violence orchestrated by the far Left, Anarchists, Antifa and all the other assorted loons has been commonplace.

Where have you been?

Not really what I said. And if resources are being diverted from tracking those groups to right wing loon groups then you have an allie in this argument.

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silvertop Portishead 03 Nov 18 10.50am
Originally posted by ASCPFC Who would be the most likely to attack a UK synagogue? I suspect either left wing Palestinian sympathisers or Islamic fundamentalists would be more likely to attack Jews than any perceived new NAZI party that doesn't really exist. You can always look up statistics on the rise of attacks on Jews and synagogues in countries with recent, more extreme, Islamic immigration. Indeed. But I would hope they might have those areas covered. The political angle is if an attack comes from the right mi5 will take a kicking. Hence...
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Portishead 03 Nov 18 10.50am

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Who would be the most likely to attack a UK synagogue? I suspect either left wing Palestinian sympathisers or Islamic fundamentalists would be more likely to attack Jews than any perceived new NAZI party that doesn't really exist.
You can always look up statistics on the rise of attacks on Jews and synagogues in countries with recent, more extreme, Islamic immigration.

Indeed. But I would hope they might have those areas covered. The political angle is if an attack comes from the right mi5 will take a kicking. Hence...

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lefty27 ipswich 03 Nov 18 11.32am
There is a bit of a difference between a left wing loon accosting Rees-mog on his doorstep and the right wing loon that murder Jo cox or the fella that had been watching to much Tommy Robinson plowing his van into worshipers outside a mosque. It’s a reaction to the rise of the far right and the fact that more people are becoming radicalised. I expect MI5 monitors extremist of every ethnicity,religion and political persuasion.
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ipswich 03 Nov 18 11.32am

There is a bit of a difference between a left wing loon accosting Rees-mog on his doorstep and the right wing loon that murder Jo cox or the fella that had been watching to much Tommy Robinson plowing his van into worshipers outside a mosque. It’s a reaction to the rise of the far right and the fact that more people are becoming radicalised. I expect MI5 monitors extremist of every ethnicity,religion and political persuasion.

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chateauferret 05 Nov 18 10.48pm
Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle I thought Stirling had been quiet recently There was probably a big fireworks display in King's Park and another one on the fields behind the castle. ============ The Ferret ============
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05 Nov 18 10.48pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

I thought Stirling had been quiet recently

There was probably a big fireworks display in King's Park and another one on the fields behind the castle.

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Matov 09 Nov 18 11.05am
Surely MI5 have ALWAYS monitored far-right groups? Bit bloody amiss of them if they have not. And let's be honest, most far-right groups or organisations have infiltrators falling over themselves be it from Search Light, Antifa, Special Branch and so on. Why should MI5 miss out on all the fun and games? I have been convinced that Nick Griffin was effectively a state plant and when the BNP actually threatened to make an electoral break-out, his subsequent actions could only be seen in light of stifling any and every attempt at people rising through the ranks with even a modicum of organisational ability. Now I am firmly on the libertarian wing of the Right and find almost all the conventional 'far-right' manifestations far to moronic and unpleasant to countenance but they do pose a problem of a kind, even if only acting as a magnet for the easily led. And I would imagine that groups such as the GI movement along with influences from Italian far-right organisations mean that it is better to keep a watchful eye on them because they do have some bright young things amongst their leadership. Ironic in some ways that it is more the pan-European style movements that are gaining most headway in these Brexit time with even the Tommy Robinson bandwagon having more than a whiff of the garlic and tulip bulb about it than conventional wisdom might assume. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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09 Nov 18 11.05am

Surely MI5 have ALWAYS monitored far-right groups? Bit bloody amiss of them if they have not. And let's be honest, most far-right groups or organisations have infiltrators falling over themselves be it from Search Light, Antifa, Special Branch and so on. Why should MI5 miss out on all the fun and games?

I have been convinced that Nick Griffin was effectively a state plant and when the BNP actually threatened to make an electoral break-out, his subsequent actions could only be seen in light of stifling any and every attempt at people rising through the ranks with even a modicum of organisational ability.

Now I am firmly on the libertarian wing of the Right and find almost all the conventional 'far-right' manifestations far to moronic and unpleasant to countenance but they do pose a problem of a kind, even if only acting as a magnet for the easily led. And I would imagine that groups such as the GI movement along with influences from Italian far-right organisations mean that it is better to keep a watchful eye on them because they do have some bright young things amongst their leadership.

Ironic in some ways that it is more the pan-European style movements that are gaining most headway in these Brexit time with even the Tommy Robinson bandwagon having more than a whiff of the garlic and tulip bulb about it than conventional wisdom might assume.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 09 Nov 18 11.13am
Originally posted by Matov Now I am firmly on the libertarian wing of the Right and find almost all the conventional 'far-right' manifestations far to moronic and unpleasant to countenance but they do pose a problem of a kind, even if only acting as a magnet for the easily led. And I would imagine that groups such as the GI movement along with influences from Italian far-right organisations mean that it is better to keep a watchful eye on them because they do have some bright young things amongst their leadership. Ironic in some ways that it is more the pan-European style movements that are gaining most headway in these Brexit time with even the Tommy Robinson bandwagon having more than a whiff of the garlic and tulip bulb about it than conventional wisdom might assume. Anarcho-capitalist? "Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."
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Where you have to have an English ... 09 Nov 18 11.13am

Originally posted by Matov

Now I am firmly on the libertarian wing of the Right and find almost all the conventional 'far-right' manifestations far to moronic and unpleasant to countenance but they do pose a problem of a kind, even if only acting as a magnet for the easily led. And I would imagine that groups such as the GI movement along with influences from Italian far-right organisations mean that it is better to keep a watchful eye on them because they do have some bright young things amongst their leadership.

Anarcho-capitalist?

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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