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Gary St.Andrews Kenley 21 Oct 18 8.46am
I am sure he is frustrated with it at the moment, because all the games apart from the Liverpool one,we should have picked up points. Our finishing has been a joke, we have created some great openings and wasted them. Look how many Jimmy Mac has had, he should have had about 5 goals so far, but it hasn’t gone for him. We need a bit of luck to go our way and we will be fine...
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I am sure he is frustrated with it at the moment, because all the games apart from the Liverpool one,we should have picked up points.

Our finishing has been a joke, we have created some great openings and wasted them. Look how many Jimmy Mac has had, he should have had about 5 goals so far, but it hasn’t gone for him. We need a bit of luck to go our way and we will be fine...

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Username Horsham 21 Oct 18 8.56am
Originally posted by grumpymort pull your head out of SP * go and look at the books which shows this and SP even stated himself the club was losing a lot of money. the former chairman failed because of the collapse of ondigital** deal so clubs got no money they was promised so he had to resort to silly methods to get some and as i said before there was no fancy big pay outs you can claim the relative stuff all you want that is false look at the claimed big clubs it happened to now days because of the wealth shared even when dropping you have big chance of retaining lots of talent pushing to come back up back then you didn't you really are in a bubble you dont have a clue thats it need to find ignore button for you Blimey, that's a great excuse. So Jordan went bust im 2010 because of a deal that collapsed in 2002. Ignoring the fact we got promoted and relegated in the eight years between that, if ITV digital was the reason, why did he Jordan continue to spend all that money on players like Kuqi? The year before we went into admin we paid £1m for Nick Carle FFS. Back then you couldn't keep talent if you got relegated? We kept hold of AJ! Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.
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Horsham 21 Oct 18 8.56am

Originally posted by grumpymort

pull your head out of SP *** go and look at the books which shows this and SP even stated himself the club was losing a lot of money.

the former chairman failed because of the collapse of ondigital deal so clubs got no money they was promised so he had to resort to silly methods to get some and as i said before there was no fancy big pay outs you can claim the relative stuff all you want that is false look at the claimed big clubs it happened to now days because of the wealth shared even when dropping you have big chance of retaining lots of talent pushing to come back up back then you didn't

you really are in a bubble you dont have a clue thats it need to find ignore button for you

Blimey, that's a great excuse. So Jordan went bust im 2010 because of a deal that collapsed in 2002.

Ignoring the fact we got promoted and relegated in the eight years between that, if ITV digital was the reason, why did he Jordan continue to spend all that money on players like Kuqi? The year before we went into admin we paid £1m for Nick Carle FFS.

Back then you couldn't keep talent if you got relegated? We kept hold of AJ!

Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.

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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 21 Oct 18 9.13am
Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews I am sure he is frustrated with it at the moment, because all the games apart from the Liverpool one,we should have picked up points. Our finishing has been a joke, we have created some great openings and wasted them. Look how many Jimmy Mac has had, he should have had about 5 goals so far, but it hasn’t gone for him. We need a bit of luck to go our way and we will be fine... It's a disgrace, what do they do all week? Football is a relatively simple game ... and the aim is to put the ball in the net. What game are we playing? Denial is not just a river in Egypt
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Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews

I am sure he is frustrated with it at the moment, because all the games apart from the Liverpool one,we should have picked up points.

Our finishing has been a joke, we have created some great openings and wasted them. Look how many Jimmy Mac has had, he should have had about 5 goals so far, but it hasn’t gone for him. We need a bit of luck to go our way and we will be fine...

It's a disgrace, what do they do all week? Football is a relatively simple game ... and the aim is to put the ball in the net. What game are we playing?

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

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Midlands Eagle 21 Oct 18 9.24am
Originally posted by Username why did he Jordan continue to spend all that money on players like Kuqi? The year before we went into admin we paid £1m for Nick Carle FFS. Simon Jordan has made the point that he always backed the manager so I'm guessing that Kuqi and Carle weren't his idea
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Originally posted by Username

why did he Jordan continue to spend all that money on players like Kuqi? The year before we went into admin we paid £1m for Nick Carle FFS.

Simon Jordan has made the point that he always backed the manager so I'm guessing that Kuqi and Carle weren't his idea

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Username Horsham 21 Oct 18 10.01am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Simon Jordan has made the point that he always backed the manager so I'm guessing that Kuqi and Carle weren't his idea He still signed the cheques though. Not blaming him for the quality of player, but his spending was clearly poorly managed. That's why we were in admin, not the collapse of ITV digital. Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.
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Horsham 21 Oct 18 10.01am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Simon Jordan has made the point that he always backed the manager so I'm guessing that Kuqi and Carle weren't his idea

He still signed the cheques though.

Not blaming him for the quality of player, but his spending was clearly poorly managed.

That's why we were in admin, not the collapse of ITV digital.

Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.

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Painter Croydon 21 Oct 18 11.12am
Originally posted by grumpymort pull your head out of SP * go and look at the books which shows this and SP even stated himself the club was losing a lot of money. the former chairman failed because of the collapse of ondigital deal** so clubs got no money they was promised so he had to resort to silly methods to get some and as i said before there was no fancy big pay outs you can claim the relative stuff all you want that is false look at the claimed big clubs it happened to now days because of the wealth shared even when dropping you have big chance of retaining lots of talent pushing to come back up back then you didn't you really are in a bubble you dont have a clue thats it need to find ignore button for you Not sure, what SP has done to upset you, but your argument doesn't stack up. The failed ITV deal was years before Jordan went into administration, he failed due to poor leadership, nothing else. I was there the day he announced the ground was now his, in fact it belonged to Paul Kemsley, who in the end helped push Jordan over the edge. SP may of stated the club was losing money, it had just come out of administration, so was obviously on its knees. Yes, he had some luck getting promotion, but he has managed to retain our status. Jordan also went up through the play offs in 2004 after ondigital deal collapse, but failed and got relegated. You may not like the facts and worship Jordan, you should tune into Talksport, you can hear him waffle on, on there. If you think I am in a bubble and made it up, prove me wrong.
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Croydon 21 Oct 18 11.12am

Originally posted by grumpymort

pull your head out of SP *** go and look at the books which shows this and SP even stated himself the club was losing a lot of money.

the former chairman failed because of the collapse of ondigital deal so clubs got no money they was promised so he had to resort to silly methods to get some and as i said before there was no fancy big pay outs you can claim the relative stuff all you want that is false look at the claimed big clubs it happened to now days because of the wealth shared even when dropping you have big chance of retaining lots of talent pushing to come back up back then you didn't

you really are in a bubble you dont have a clue thats it need to find ignore button for you

Not sure, what SP has done to upset you, but your argument doesn't stack up. The failed ITV deal was years before Jordan went into administration, he failed due to poor leadership, nothing else. I was there the day he announced the ground was now his, in fact it belonged to Paul Kemsley, who in the end helped push Jordan over the edge.
SP may of stated the club was losing money, it had just come out of administration, so was obviously on its knees. Yes, he had some luck getting promotion, but he has managed to retain our status. Jordan also went up through the play offs in 2004 after ondigital deal collapse, but failed and got relegated.
You may not like the facts and worship Jordan, you should tune into Talksport, you can hear him waffle on, on there.
If you think I am in a bubble and made it up, prove me wrong.

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grumpymort US/Thailand/UK 21 Oct 18 12.22pm
Originally posted by Painter Not sure, what SP has done to upset you, but your argument doesn't stack up. The failed ITV deal was years before Jordan went into administration, he failed due to poor leadership, nothing else. I was there the day he announced the ground was now his, in fact it belonged to Paul Kemsley, who in the end helped push Jordan over the edge. SP may of stated the club was losing money, it had just come out of administration, so was obviously on its knees. Yes, he had some luck getting promotion, but he has managed to retain our status. Jordan also went up through the play offs in 2004 after ondigital deal collapse, but failed and got relegated. You may not like the facts and worship Jordan, you should tune into Talksport, you can hear him waffle on, on there. If you think I am in a bubble and made it up, prove me wrong. I have met SP and SJ was around the club when it was in administration so i know what went on. People claiming ondigital had no impact o my just shows how you guys really don't have a clue so you are telling me if sky now pulls its tv money it wont affect clubs in few years time. As another posted stated SJ was willing to back managers they asked for players he used his own cash to fund them and there was ffp back then as well. You really need to learn the facts to claim because he had taken over which was reason for money loss again shows how you don't know what you are on about (he got the club for peanuts) The loses are because that league there is no proper revenue this isn't today with all these big sums flying around for teams coming down which is why they have to rush to get promoted just look at Villa come down manage to have big people didn't get promoted then had to completely strip everything so back when we was down there it would of been even worse SJ does talk some rubbish at times but that is how sales people are SP does the same thing have you even listed to his latest interviews I would guess you have but in your fantasy mind you read them as super positive because you love the guy (VPN) - [Link] (Alt VPN) - [Link]
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US/Thailand/UK 21 Oct 18 12.22pm

Originally posted by Painter

I have met SP and SJ was around the club when it was in administration so i know what went on.

People claiming ondigital had no impact o my just shows how you guys really don't have a clue so you are telling me if sky now pulls its tv money it wont affect clubs in few years time.

As another posted stated SJ was willing to back managers they asked for players he used his own cash to fund them and there was ffp back then as well.

You really need to learn the facts to claim because he had taken over which was reason for money loss again shows how you don't know what you are on about (he got the club for peanuts)

The loses are because that league there is no proper revenue this isn't today with all these big sums flying around for teams coming down which is why they have to rush to get promoted just look at Villa come down manage to have big people didn't get promoted then had to completely strip everything so back when we was down there it would of been even worse

SJ does talk some rubbish at times but that is how sales people are SP does the same thing have you even listed to his latest interviews I would guess you have but in your fantasy mind you read them as super positive because you love the guy

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Username Horsham 21 Oct 18 12.59pm
Originally posted by grumpymort I have met SP and SJ was around the club when it was in administration so i know what went on. People claiming ondigital had no impact o my just shows how you guys really don't have a clue so you are telling me if sky now pulls its tv money it wont affect clubs in few years time. As another posted stated SJ was willing to back managers they asked for players he used his own cash to fund them and there was ffp back then as well. You really need to learn the facts to claim because he had taken over which was reason for money loss again shows how you don't know what you are on about (he got the club for peanuts) The loses are because that league there is no proper revenue this isn't today with all these big sums flying around for teams coming down which is why they have to rush to get promoted just look at Villa come down manage to have big people didn't get promoted then had to completely strip everything so back when we was down there it would of been even worse SJ does talk some rubbish at times but that is how sales people are SP does the same thing have you even listed to his latest interviews I would guess you have but in your fantasy mind you read them as super positive because you love the guy It was eight years before! If you can't adjust your business model to survive after an eight year period which included the massive cash injection of promotion then that's your fault. Sounds like a classic SJ bit of misdirection to me. Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.
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Horsham 21 Oct 18 12.59pm

Originally posted by grumpymort

I have met SP and SJ was around the club when it was in administration so i know what went on.

People claiming ondigital had no impact o my just shows how you guys really don't have a clue so you are telling me if sky now pulls its tv money it wont affect clubs in few years time.

As another posted stated SJ was willing to back managers they asked for players he used his own cash to fund them and there was ffp back then as well.

You really need to learn the facts to claim because he had taken over which was reason for money loss again shows how you don't know what you are on about (he got the club for peanuts)

It was eight years before! If you can't adjust your business model to survive after an eight year period which included the massive cash injection of promotion then that's your fault.

Sounds like a classic SJ bit of misdirection to me.

Employee of the month is a good example of how someone can be both a winner and a loser at the same time.

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spartakev2 Anerley 21 Oct 18 1.27pm
Can we get back on topic....
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Can we get back on topic....

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Vaibow vancouver/croydon 21 Oct 18 9.48pm
Originally posted by Username Finishes in the Premier League: 11th 10th 15th 14th 11th So at our worst there were five worse teams, on average we finish around 12th, which is pretty comfortable. We've won away at Anfield twice, Stamford Bridge twice, we've beaten quality Spurs and City sides. Not prepared to break the bank, apart from when a small club from South London signed players like Sakho and Benteke or paid the wages required to keep Wilf and sign Cabaye and Meyer. Not too mention the cost of signing Van Aanholt, Schlupp, Townsend, Sørloth, Tomkins, Luka and even Jimmy Mac. None of them were particularly cheap. How is spending more money using his head rather than his heart anyway? I'd say a better example is being able to know when he's made a mistake, like moving on from FdB. Good points raised... my main point is that Roy wasn't allowed to build his team this summer, starting with last january. Let's look at opening day this season, our squad was ranked 12th in regards to money spent. Fulham 11th, spent 30+ on Sessegnon. Few places up, West ham, 30+ on top player. My point is, nothing at palace is relevant or stable, it's lets splash the cash to fix a mess in 2017 and then say 'look i spend money'. Anyways, we are in a mess and the common denominator is Parish in my view. This was once a quality forum....
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Originally posted by Username

Finishes in the Premier League:

11th
10th
15th
14th
11th

So at our worst there were five worse teams, on average we finish around 12th, which is pretty comfortable. We've won away at Anfield twice, Stamford Bridge twice, we've beaten quality Spurs and City sides.

Not prepared to break the bank, apart from when a small club from South London signed players like Sakho and Benteke or paid the wages required to keep Wilf and sign Cabaye and Meyer.

Not too mention the cost of signing Van Aanholt, Schlupp, Townsend, Sørloth, Tomkins, Luka and even Jimmy Mac. None of them were particularly cheap.

How is spending more money using his head rather than his heart anyway? I'd say a better example is being able to know when he's made a mistake, like moving on from FdB.

Good points raised... my main point is that Roy wasn't allowed to build his team this summer, starting with last january. Let's look at opening day this season, our squad was ranked 12th in regards to money spent. Fulham 11th, spent 30+ on Sessegnon. Few places up, West ham, 30+ on top player. My point is, nothing at palace is relevant or stable, it's lets splash the cash to fix a mess in 2017 and then say 'look i spend money'. Anyways, we are in a mess and the common denominator is Parish in my view.

This was once a quality forum....

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 21 Oct 18 10.21pm
Without wishing to sound like I'm sticking up for Parish surely the blame lies with Freedman. I would guess Parish just signs the cheques !! Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 21 Oct 18 10.21pm

Without wishing to sound like I'm sticking up for Parish surely the blame lies with Freedman. I would guess Parish just signs the cheques !!

Pro USA & Israel

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Vaibow vancouver/croydon 22 Oct 18 4.58am
Originally posted by Jimenez Without wishing to sound like I'm sticking up for Parish surely the blame lies with Freedman. I would guess Parish just signs the cheques !! eager to hear how freedman is to blame - not that i am disagreeing either way. This was once a quality forum....
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vancouver/croydon 22 Oct 18 4.58am

Originally posted by Jimenez

Without wishing to sound like I'm sticking up for Parish surely the blame lies with Freedman. I would guess Parish just signs the cheques !!

eager to hear how freedman is to blame - not that i am disagreeing either way.

This was once a quality forum....

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