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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Oct 18 10.21am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Booted Eagle

PVA, Schlupp and Luka joined not shy of £35 million and the Beast came on loan. If we can get RLC back on loan then we need to spend at least £25-30 million on a striker.

I believe the initial fees for PVA,Schlupp and Luka are approaching £30 Mill.If all the add-ons kick in then this figure goes up to just short of £39 Mill.Add on the fee paid to Sakho and this figure rises to £65 Mill.

 

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aashman12 Flag 25 Oct 18 7.45am Send a Private Message to aashman12 Add aashman12 as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Did anyone else listen to Parish on FYP speak about the transfer policy and recent signings?

Someone rolled out a stat about the 7 most recent signings basically not playing for the club regularly yet. Jach, Rakip, Sorloth, Meyer, Guaita, Kouyate, Ayew.

First thing he said was we sometimes sign players to make sure we have an 11 on 11 in training.........

I was wondering if I heard that correctly, but he actually said that.

He initially stated he was absolutely thrilled with recent transfer business, that we couldnt have done any better. Old Steve then backed off a bit and said that some mistakes were made.

Most comedic moment was when he was listed all the positives behind each player, and said about Sorloth after a short pause "he had a good game at West Brom". Says it all really. Sorloth should have gone out on loan immediately, he is absolutely nowhere near Premier League level.

How anyone can look at our attacking options and think we did well on that front in recent transfer windows is beyond my comprehension. Kouyate and Meyer were good signings, make no bones about it, but in terms of forwards we are seriously lacking, again.

Never thought I would say this but I think we really could use Bakary Sako right now, he would definitely be starting.

When oh when will we properly manage our squad and ensure the manager has quality and diverse options in all areas of the pitch?

Sako, the perma injured player???

 

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cardiff eagle Flag 26 Oct 18 7.45am Send a Private Message to cardiff eagle Add cardiff eagle as a friend

This post has been merged from a topic called 'The reason why we’re doing badly is simple ' by Midlands Eagle

Surely this reason isn’t to do with making subs earlier (although that is f***ing annoying) or the system we play but the fact we have replaced first team starters with squad players.

Line up from last home game of last season and indeed majority of our matches that saw us unbeaten in last six:

Hennessy
Wan bissaka
Sakho
Tomkins
PVA
Mccarthur
Luka
RLC
Cabaye
Zaha
Townsend

Since then our lineup has remained largely the same but swapped RLC for schlupp and cabaye for kouyate. Both of these are clear downgrades.

I also feel we never truly recovered from losing bolasie. That season before we lost him we were desperate for another winger to come in and challenge zaha and bolasie and help cover when injured. When we got Townsend I was delighted. Then we sold bolasie and the whole saga continued but with a downgraded player.

If we wish to sustain, let alone progress we need to replace players with equals and then add squad players in behind to challenge them and keep them on their toes. For me this is where we’ve failed monumentally as a club and fear we may pay the price.

 

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Maine Eagle Flag USA 26 Oct 18 1.44pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cardiff eagle

This post has been merged from a topic called 'The reason why we’re doing badly is simple ' by Midlands Eagle

Surely this reason isn’t to do with making subs earlier (although that is f***ing annoying) or the system we play but the fact we have replaced first team starters with squad players.

Line up from last home game of last season and indeed majority of our matches that saw us unbeaten in last six:

Hennessy
Wan bissaka
Sakho
Tomkins
PVA
Mccarthur
Luka
RLC
Cabaye
Zaha
Townsend

Since then our lineup has remained largely the same but swapped RLC for schlupp and cabaye for kouyate. Both of these are clear downgrades.

I also feel we never truly recovered from losing bolasie. That season before we lost him we were desperate for another winger to come in and challenge zaha and bolasie and help cover when injured. When we got Townsend I was delighted. Then we sold bolasie and the whole saga continued but with a downgraded player.

If we wish to sustain, let alone progress we need to replace players with equals and then add squad players in behind to challenge them and keep them on their toes. For me this is where we’ve failed monumentally as a club and fear we may pay the price.

I think the idea was for Meyer to replace Cabaye. For whatever reason that is not working out too well for us at the minute.

As for RLC it’s a huge loss, and it once again raises the point of the concept of loaning high quality players which you probably cannot sign permanently. When they walk away, you are left with a problem if they became integral.

At least in Ayew we have gone back to loaning players who look awful - normal service resumed,

With a fit and happy Bolasie in the side our fortunes would be different. Defenders hated playing against Bolasie. I can understand cashing in on him but Townsend is not a like for like replacement for what Yannick was actually doing for us towards the end of his Palace career.

At the end of the day we didn’t get someone in like RLC - no easy feat, but the bigger issue is not signing a proper striker.

How you could sit and watch us last year and think that going into this season with Benteke, Sorloth and Ayew on loan was good enough, is hard to understand.

 


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est1905 Flag 26 Oct 18 5.21pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

We are always being told by Parish that signing a quality striker is sooooo difficult. Everyone chasing the same player (well if they weren't he'd be crap), selling club always way over value (their prerogative if he's theirs), convincing the player to come (that's Freedman's job to sell the club to incoming players the competition of Swansea, WBA, Brighton and that level should not be too difficult, we are in London FFS)

IMO Parish just doesn't want to spend what it takes to stay up and winging it will see our luck (and yes we have been lucky) run out. If he wont spend 30/40m on a proven top level quality striker then take a chance on a prolific Championship one. Bradley Dack is an example. Not saying he is the answer but I bet I know which most would prefer between him and Ayew.
Or what about a top 5 youth striker that needs games on loan? FFS if we cant find what we're looking for think outside the box and find a bloody solution. The suggestions made are gambles of course they are but they are a damn site smaller gamble than doing nothing, going down and kissing goodbye to 100m a season!

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Oct 18 6.19pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

We are always being told by Parish that signing a quality striker is sooooo difficult. Everyone chasing the same player (well if they weren't he'd be crap), selling club always way over value (their prerogative if he's theirs), convincing the player to come (that's Freedman's job to sell the club to incoming players the competition of Swansea, WBA, Brighton and that level should not be too difficult, we are in London FFS)

IMO Parish just doesn't want to spend what it takes to stay up and winging it will see our luck (and yes we have been lucky) run out. If he wont spend 30/40m on a proven top level quality striker then take a chance on a prolific Championship one. Bradley Dack is an example. Not saying he is the answer but I bet I know which most would prefer between him and Ayew.
Or what about a top 5 youth striker that needs games on loan? FFS if we cant find what we're looking for think outside the box and find a bloody solution. The suggestions made are gambles of course they are but they are a damn site smaller gamble than doing nothing, going down and kissing goodbye to 100m a season!

Dack is considered a goalscoring midfielder who makes runs into the area from midfield.At Gillingham I saw him deployed behind the front two.He scored 18 goals for the 'Gills' last season.Physically strong,difficult to shake off the ball and adept at finding space in the box.I think Blackburn signed him for £750K.

Edited by Willo (26 Oct 2018 6.22pm)

 

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est1905 Flag 27 Oct 18 5.41pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Dack is considered a goalscoring midfielder who makes runs into the area from midfield.At Gillingham I saw him deployed behind the front two.He scored 18 goals for the 'Gills' last season.Physically strong,difficult to shake off the ball and adept at finding space in the box.I think Blackburn signed him for £750K.

Edited by Willo (26 Oct 2018 6.22pm)

Dack has been played as an out and out striker by Blackburn but granted, when describing him as one that may be a bad example. However I think most people know what I'm getting at. If we cant buy ready made buy potential and work with him ffs. Or have our coaches got no faith in their own ability to improve players?

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Oct 18 6.01pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

Dack has been played as an out and out striker by Blackburn but granted, when describing him as one that may be a bad example. However I think most people know what I'm getting at. If we cant buy ready made buy potential and work with him ffs. Or have our coaches got no faith in their own ability to improve players?

I understand what you are getting at.
McBurnie of Swansea is a player who might come into that category.Maybe even Stockley of Exeter.

 

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