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steeleye20 Croydon 05 Sep 18 3.15pm
Why jewish people consider themselves 'chosen' or 'special' is completely beyond me. They can rule the USA but we don't want it here.
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Croydon 05 Sep 18 3.15pm

Why jewish people consider themselves 'chosen' or 'special' is completely beyond me.

They can rule the USA but we don't want it here.

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Penge Eagle Beckenham 05 Sep 18 3.55pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Why jewish people consider themselves 'chosen' or 'special' is completely beyond me. They can rule the USA but we don't want it here. You do know that's also what the far right says...
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Beckenham 05 Sep 18 3.55pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Why jewish people consider themselves 'chosen' or 'special' is completely beyond me.

They can rule the USA but we don't want it here.

You do know that's also what the far right says...

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serial thriller The Promised Land 05 Sep 18 5.03pm
Originally posted by Rubin It's the vocal minority and media that push the progressivism, so it's not necessarily reflected in democratic votes (having said that, Theresa May may as well be on the progressive left). It's then perpetuated by large corporations, as they're scared of doing something that the vocal minority find to be 'offensive', which will result in fake outrage from the vocal minority on social media, which will then be picked up by the media. Regarding the institutions, they tend to produce most of the media class and progressives who all tend to be upper middle class, but again, they're still a minority, so their views aren't reflected in votes. This makes me laugh. You have a politician who leads the largest political party in Europe, who has the support of 40% of the voting public, and has increased grassroots membership of his party by 300%. And yet you have only half a dozen of the hundreds of print media journos who would ever dare say something positive of him or them. No mainstream paper supports Labour, the BBC have been proven and reprimanded for their bias towards him, only a few small voluntary online platforms have voiced support. And you think the left controls the media? Staggering. If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4
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Originally posted by Rubin

It's the vocal minority and media that push the progressivism, so it's not necessarily reflected in democratic votes (having said that, Theresa May may as well be on the progressive left). It's then perpetuated by large corporations, as they're scared of doing something that the vocal minority find to be 'offensive', which will result in fake outrage from the vocal minority on social media, which will then be picked up by the media.

Regarding the institutions, they tend to produce most of the media class and progressives who all tend to be upper middle class, but again, they're still a minority, so their views aren't reflected in votes.

This makes me laugh. You have a politician who leads the largest political party in Europe, who has the support of 40% of the voting public, and has increased grassroots membership of his party by 300%.

And yet you have only half a dozen of the hundreds of print media journos who would ever dare say something positive of him or them. No mainstream paper supports Labour, the BBC have been proven and reprimanded for their bias towards him, only a few small voluntary online platforms have voiced support.

And you think the left controls the media? Staggering.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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Stirlingsays 05 Sep 18 5.31pm
Originally posted by serial thriller This makes me laugh. You have a politician who leads the largest political party in Europe, who has the support of 40% of the voting public, and has increased grassroots membership of his party by 300%. And yet you have only half a dozen of the hundreds of print media journos who would ever dare say something positive of him or them. No mainstream paper supports Labour, the BBC have been proven and reprimanded for their bias towards him, only a few small voluntary online platforms have voiced support. And you think the left controls the media? Staggering. What is staggering is how you write such absolute nonsense. The Guardian urged its readers to vote Labour at the 2017 election. The Independent urged its readers to vote Labour at the 2017 election. The Mirror urged its readers to vote Labour at the 2017 election. The New Statesman urged its readers to vote Labour at the 2017 election. [Link] As for the BBC anyone who can't see its left wing bias needs to take their rose coloured glasses off. The company even instituted its own diversity quotas last year. The institution practically thinks of itself as the Guardian....but on the public purse. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Sep 2018 5.32pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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05 Sep 18 5.31pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

And yet you have only half a dozen of the hundreds of print media journos who would ever dare say something positive of him or them. No mainstream paper supports Labour, the BBC have been proven and reprimanded for their bias towards him, only a few small voluntary online platforms have voiced support.

And you think the left controls the media? Staggering.

What is staggering is how you write such absolute nonsense.

The Guardian urged its readers to vote Labour at the 2017 election.
The Independent urged its readers to vote Labour at the 2017 election.
The Mirror urged its readers to vote Labour at the 2017 election.
The New Statesman urged its readers to vote Labour at the 2017 election.

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As for the BBC anyone who can't see its left wing bias needs to take their rose coloured glasses off.

The company even instituted its own diversity quotas last year.

The institution practically thinks of itself as the Guardian....but on the public purse.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Sep 2018 5.32pm)

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Stirlingsays 05 Sep 18 5.34pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Why jewish people consider themselves 'chosen' or 'special' is completely beyond me. They can rule the USA but we don't want it here. Isn't that like saying you've never read the Old Testament. If you're going to be a religious Jew, you practically have to believe that....because it's in there numerous times. Oh and Jews are pretty impressive on average.....amongst the highest IQs in the world....and with IQ comes the higher likelihood of wealth....which the statistics also show. But I agree with you....The activist lobbies must not be allowed to control our parties. But isn't that what has just happened? Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Sep 2018 5.39pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

05 Sep 18 5.34pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Why jewish people consider themselves 'chosen' or 'special' is completely beyond me.

They can rule the USA but we don't want it here.

Isn't that like saying you've never read the Old Testament.

If you're going to be a religious Jew, you practically have to believe that....because it's in there numerous times.

Oh and Jews are pretty impressive on average.....amongst the highest IQs in the world....and with IQ comes the higher likelihood of wealth....which the statistics also show.

But I agree with you....The activist lobbies must not be allowed to control our parties.

But isn't that what has just happened?

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Sep 2018 5.39pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Sep 18 6.09pm
All labour needs to do is refute the right of Israel to control Palestine, rather than question the right of Israel to exist. Hardly a major stretch. Much as many would like it to happen, the end of Israel will probably not be until the end of many a country. I find it hilarious that Israel bases its existence solely on religious terms, calling that religion a race - which it clearly is not. The other solely religious based state is not allowed to exist; nor should it be. Presumably by slagging off Isreal, I am now anti-Semitic. Edited by ASCPFC (05 Sep 2018 6.10pm) Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Sep 18 6.09pm

All labour needs to do is refute the right of Israel to control Palestine, rather than question the right of Israel to exist. Hardly a major stretch.
Much as many would like it to happen, the end of Israel will probably not be until the end of many a country.
I find it hilarious that Israel bases its existence solely on religious terms, calling that religion a race - which it clearly is not.
The other solely religious based state is not allowed to exist; nor should it be. Presumably by slagging off Isreal, I am now anti-Semitic.

Edited by ASCPFC (05 Sep 2018 6.10pm)

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steeleye20 Croydon 05 Sep 18 7.16pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Isn't that like saying you've never read the Old Testament. If you're going to be a religious Jew, you practically have to believe that....because it's in there numerous times. Oh and Jews are pretty impressive on average.....amongst the highest IQs in the world....and with IQ comes the higher likelihood of wealth....which the statistics also show. But I agree with you....The activist lobbies must not be allowed to control our parties. But isn't that what has just happened? Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Sep 2018 5.39pm) Yes agree with you, it seems they do. If they carry on as at present we will all end up being anti-semitic !
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Croydon 05 Sep 18 7.16pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Isn't that like saying you've never read the Old Testament.

If you're going to be a religious Jew, you practically have to believe that....because it's in there numerous times.

Oh and Jews are pretty impressive on average.....amongst the highest IQs in the world....and with IQ comes the higher likelihood of wealth....which the statistics also show.

But I agree with you....The activist lobbies must not be allowed to control our parties.

But isn't that what has just happened?

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Sep 2018 5.39pm)

Yes agree with you, it seems they do.

If they carry on as at present we will all end up being anti-semitic !

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Rubin 05 Sep 18 8.25pm
Originally posted by serial thriller This makes me laugh. You have a politician who leads the largest political party in Europe, who has the support of 40% of the voting public, and has increased grassroots membership of his party by 300%. And yet you have only half a dozen of the hundreds of print media journos who would ever dare say something positive of him or them. No mainstream paper supports Labour, the BBC have been proven and reprimanded for their bias towards him, only a few small voluntary online platforms have voiced support. And you think the left controls the media? Staggering. I didn't say that the media want Labour to be voted in with Corbyn as leader. I said that the media is driven by the left. Corbyn is too much of an unknown for them. Everyone knows that he personally wants to leave the EU and is anti Israeli Government. He's part of the true far left, not the new, antifa sympathising one. It's perfectly clear that they're doing everything they can to oust him, and if they get their way, they'll get someone like Chukka in, and will be lapping him up. Try to see it beyond the party political level, and more the cultural one.
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05 Sep 18 8.25pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

And you think the left controls the media? Staggering.

I didn't say that the media want Labour to be voted in with Corbyn as leader. I said that the media is driven by the left. Corbyn is too much of an unknown for them. Everyone knows that he personally wants to leave the EU and is anti Israeli Government. He's part of the true far left, not the new, antifa sympathising one.

It's perfectly clear that they're doing everything they can to oust him, and if they get their way, they'll get someone like Chukka in, and will be lapping him up.

Try to see it beyond the party political level, and more the cultural one.

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Stirlingsays 05 Sep 18 8.43pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Yes agree with you, it seems they do. If they carry on as at present we will all end up being anti-semitic ! Oy vey. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

05 Sep 18 8.43pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Yes agree with you, it seems they do.

If they carry on as at present we will all end up being anti-semitic !

Oy vey.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 05 Sep 18 8.47pm
Originally posted by Rubin I didn't say that the media want Labour to be voted in with Corbyn as leader. I said that the media is driven by the left. Corbyn is too much of an unknown for them. Everyone knows that he personally wants to leave the EU and is anti Israeli Government. He's part of the true far left, not the new, antifa sympathising one. It's perfectly clear that they're doing everything they can to oust him, and if they get their way, they'll get someone like Chukka in, and will be lapping him up. Try to see it beyond the party political level, and more the cultural one. Oh my god, if the middle class internationalist champagne lefties had Chukka they would literally be orgasming from here to the next erection...Mmmm...I mean election. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

05 Sep 18 8.47pm

Originally posted by Rubin

It's perfectly clear that they're doing everything they can to oust him, and if they get their way, they'll get someone like Chukka in, and will be lapping him up.

Try to see it beyond the party political level, and more the cultural one.

Oh my god, if the middle class internationalist champagne lefties had Chukka they would literally be orgasming from here to the next erection...Mmmm...I mean election.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 07 Sep 18 4.32pm
Originally posted by Rubin Buzz word to close down discussion alert. It's just a caveat to look into the credentials of the originator of the quote. Nick is one of the last people on this planet to shut down debate. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 07 Sep 18 4.32pm

Originally posted by Rubin

Buzz word to close down discussion alert.

It's just a caveat to look into the credentials of the originator of the quote. Nick is one of the last people on this planet to shut down debate.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Sep 18 5.19pm
I've been dying to ask what the distinction between a labour cave and a Tory cave would be? Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Sep 18 5.19pm

I've been dying to ask what the distinction between a labour cave and a Tory cave would be?

Red and Blue Army!

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