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Dillian Whyte v Joseph Parker
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  Hrolf The Ganger  08 Jun 18 6.01pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Not when it comes to judging and/or home advantage I don't, but when it comes to an unbeaten world champion throwing a fight I do. Do you really think Parker would agree to Hearn saying "AJ will go easy on you but you'll lose your world title and get to fight the likes of Whyte and Bellew afterwards, for much less than you've just earned" at a time when he's got a world title of his own and would have the world at his feet with victory?
Was Wilder just pretending when Ortiz nearly cleaned him out in the last fight? Of course not, because a heavyweight fight can change in one punch. Was the WBC and his promoters cheating to buy him more time at the end of that round, you bet your arse they were! Yep, quite possible. Parker had fought nobodies. His title was worth spit but a few paydays in the UK will make him a rich man. That is what boxing is about for the top guys. Wilder V Ortiz has nothing to do with it. Everyone has avoided Ortiz until he was getting old because he was dangerous. Boxing is about making money and far less about sporting glory. That is why it is called prizefighting. Promoters trainers and champions will manage the circumstances as much as possible.
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| rikz Croydon 08 Jun 18 7.21pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Yep, quite possible. Parker had fought nobodies. His title was worth spit but a few paydays in the UK will make him a rich man. That is what boxing is about for the top guys. Wilder V Ortiz has nothing to do with it. Everyone has avoided Ortiz until he was getting old because he was dangerous. Boxing is about making money and far less about sporting glory. That is why it is called prizefighting. Promoters trainers and champions will manage the circumstances as much as possible. Joshua is levels above Parker, that was clear before they thought so why would Hearn need to pay him off ? It was just a no risk disciplined performance from Joshua, get in get out with another title.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 08 Jun 18 7.35pm |
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Originally posted by rikz
Joshua is levels above Parker, that was clear before they thought so why would Hearn need to pay him off ? It was just a no risk disciplined performance from Joshua, get in get out with another title. You misunderstand. I never suggested that Parker was 'paid off'. I'm saying that maintaining Parkers reputation would have been beneficial for a Whyte v Parker PPV and future Whyte v AJ rematch.
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| Stuk Top half 08 Jun 18 11.03pm |
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Make your mind up. They're either all in on "it" or not. Hearn, Higgins, AJ, Parker, McCracken etc.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 09 Jun 18 11.32am |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Make your mind up. They're either all in on "it" or not. Hearn, Higgins, AJ, Parker, McCracken etc. You don't seem to understand plain English. There was a mutual benefit for Parker not to get destroyed by AJ. It's all fairly obvious but I'm not bothered if you don't buy it. No one is paying me.
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| rikz Croydon 09 Jun 18 12.33pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You don't seem to understand plain English. There was a mutual benefit for Parker not to get destroyed by AJ. It's all fairly obvious but I'm not bothered if you don't buy it. No one is paying me. There was no benefit for AJ to attempt to destroy Parker, he was comfortably setting the pace and boxing out of reach, so why risk taking him out and getting caught. There's no conspiracy it's just the way it's panned out.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Jun 18 12.48pm |
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Originally posted by rikz
There was no benefit for AJ to attempt to destroy Parker, he was comfortably setting the pace and boxing out of reach, so why risk taking him out and getting caught. There's no conspiracy it's just the way it's panned out. It would appear Parker's strategy was 'No-Risk' and the fight never really took off, partly because of the referee whose constant interventions never allowed the fight to flow. No conspiracy - certainly there was no plan hatched beforehand to ensure the fight went the distance.As you said "It's just the way it panned out".
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| Badger11 Beckenham 09 Jun 18 1.21pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
It would appear Parker's strategy was 'No-Risk' and the fight never really took off, partly because of the referee whose constant interventions never allowed the fight to flow. No conspiracy - certainly there was no plan hatched beforehand to ensure the fight went the distance.As you said "It's just the way it panned out". Leaving aside the conspiracy theories I agree that Parker never "went for it". I think he knew he couldn't beat Joshua so it was a survival strategy. I guess he was hoping for a lucky punch or a dodgy decision from the judges. Whatever it was not an entertaining fight.
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| Stuk Top half 10 Jun 18 3.36pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You don't seem to understand plain English. There was a mutual benefit for Parker not to get destroyed by AJ. It's all fairly obvious but I'm not bothered if you don't buy it. No one is paying me. You're clutching at straws, as your first sentence shows. No I don't buy your ridiculous theory, nor does anyone else. It was a unification fight you're talking about being rigged, because people would get bored if he knocked him out. Lol. Are you even reading what you're writing?
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| Stuk Top half 10 Jun 18 3.37pm |
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As for last night's walkover, there were more punches thrown in the crowd.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 10 Jun 18 4.38pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
You're clutching at straws, as your first sentence shows. No I don't buy your ridiculous theory, nor does anyone else. It was a unification fight you're talking about being rigged, because people would get bored if he knocked him out. Lol. Are you even reading what you're writing? Judging by your responses, you don't comprehend too well. No doubt you were also impressed by the Tyson Fury fight as well. Another serious sporting contest with no thought to making money. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (10 Jun 2018 4.40pm)
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| Casual Orpington 10 Jun 18 8.39pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Judging by your responses, you don't comprehend too well. No doubt you were also impressed by the Tyson Fury fight as well. Another serious sporting contest with no thought to making money. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (10 Jun 2018 4.40pm) Fighters might not be matched , if it can build a bit more to make it a bigger fight. Some promoters may not put there fighter in with someone that they don’t think they will beat. Some fights might not be evenly matched, by the promoters.
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