The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

I've argued for a few years on here about 'choosing' where a portion of our taxes go to. The usual, defence, NHS, Judical system and Education would be ringfenced in my ideal world...with the remaining 20% of someones tax burden going to up to 4 different areas. These areas could all 'tout' for my support accordingly.

The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

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The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

I think you will find the changing demographics of the country would make a far bigger impact on the costs for a single year than the whole total for any (disputed or unsubstantiated) migrant cost.

In the next 15 years the growth in the number of over 65s will be bigger than that of all persons under 65. It a similar problem as pensions with longevity but this time the illnesses that come with longevity. A person over 65 generally costs the NHS over 3 times as much as someone under 65 years.

The biggest problem is the NHS itself for several reasons (this isn't an all inclusive or exhaustive list):

1 It under sells its on reasearch to pharma's teh buys back at full price.

2 It undertakes unneccesary operations and services, like fertility, and some plastic surgery.

3 It conflates public and private services with teh easier and more profitable services being cherry picked and done by the same individual but for profit outside the NHS.

4 It has no written scope to describe the boundaries of what is avaialble. For example should all citizens of the UK be able to access drugs that cost 40K a month but merely delay death by a few months.

5 Better but more costly surgical procedures etc, saving those which would have died.

5 Post surgery or hospital care, and bed blocking.

6 The dicotomy that it campaigns to increase overall health of the nation costing money, whilst having to deal with more chronic disease related to old age like diabetes, heart conditions or senility; which costs massive amounts of money.

7 Containg supervirus caused by poor drug prescribing, hospital cleaniness etc.

Society needs to decide what it wants and what it is willing to pay for before doing the costings. Costings should be a constraint and not the allowed run up Tsunami-like.

Perhaps we would be better to relax regulations on smoking drinking etc; perhaps the elderly pay more tax.

We need to make decisions first rather than chuck money at a public monolith which many see as so sacred it can not be questioned.

Anyway enough about the NHS lets get back to debating sending the Windrush generation home because they now cost too much.

Edited by pefwin (24 May 2018 1.30pm)

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

Nope, a country doesn't renege upon those who have been here for decades, even though it was a mistake to provide citizenship to them originally. They should have been here on a 'foreign worker' basis.

This country needs to stop running an immigration ponzi scheme on the British tax payer. Our relaxed attitude to immigration has given us a larger problem in regardless to pensioners.

The idea that has been suggested that we can only just carry on importing more and more young foreigners here is an incoherent and illogical argument.

The 'no borders' left who want the minority votes and those sections of the economic right who want cheap labour have selfishly buggered up this country.

The economic right keep quiet while the left just lie and deny.

The answer is in automation and in having guest 'foreign workers' not giving citizenship rights to people to bring in their dependents.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 May 2018 1.32pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I start enough threads as it is, how about you start one.

No offence meant but the only person I really listen to about evolving threads is the OP as it's their thread. Most long threads take twists and turns.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)