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Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 09 May 18 8.44pm Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by .TUX.

Lighten up bud.
It was merely a reminder that the USA is far from perfect.

Nobody said they were perfect! Not sure why I have to point this out, but the USA are friends, while Iran are enemies of the UK.

Iran would happily nuke the UK if given the chance (after they destroyed Israel and the US) and were potentially on their way to threaten this if given the capability and opportunity.

To believe the regime of USA is worse or even equal to Iran is totally insane.

Edited by Penge Eagle (09 May 2018 8.47pm)

 

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.TUX. Flag 09 May 18 9.01pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Nobody said they were perfect! Not sure why I have to point this out, but the USA are friends, while Iran are enemies of the UK.

Iran would happily nuke the UK if given the chance (after they destroyed Israel and the US) and were potentially on their way to threaten this if given the capability and opportunity.

To believe the regime of USA is worse or even equal to Iran is totally insane.

Edited by Penge Eagle (09 May 2018 8.47pm)

Iran has not and will never deliberately cause continual global conflicts purely to protect it's currency.
But the other lot have.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 09 May 18 9.09pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by .TUX.

Iran has not and will never deliberately cause continual global conflicts purely to protect it's currency.
But the other lot have.

Good god Tux you are so far down the rabbit hole you have forgotten where the entrance is.

Tell me you don't think it's a Jewish conspiracy?

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 May 2018 9.15pm)

 


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Matov Flag 09 May 18 9.15pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

I get why people are down on Iran, and with good reason, but lets not be under any illusions here. This decision by Trump is essentially driven by Israeli/Saudi pressure.

I would love to see the Iranian regime toppled because I know that there are millions in Iran desperate to be freed from the rule of the Fundie nutters but I am also incredibly wary of the way Trump seems to have now sold out to the dual influences of Jerusalem and Riyadh. Lets not forget the farce of the recent attacks on Syria on the back of a chemical attack which is now not even discussed due to how ludicrous the stitch up job was.

A curse on all their houses. The West should not concern itself with the Middle East. Leave them to it.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 09 May 18 9.20pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

A curse on all their houses. The West should not concern itself with the Middle East. Leave them to it.

You mean like Russia.

 


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.TUX. Flag 09 May 18 9.22pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Good god Tux you are so far down the rabbit hole you have forgotten where the entrance is.

Tell me you don't think it's a Jewish conspiracy?

Tell me that like me you just believe that the Jewish lobbies are too strong politically for their demographic size.


Edited by Stirlingsays (09 May 2018 9.13pm)

What should i believe when Jews control the Federal Reserve?
I wouldn't normally notice tbh but they are continually so bloody useless that eventually you have to ask yourself 'why'?

PS And no 'Stuk', this is not some internet conspiracy. T'is a fact bud.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 09 May 18 9.30pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by .TUX.

What should i believe when Jews control the Federal Reserve?
I wouldn't normally notice tbh but they are continually so bloody useless that eventually you have to ask yourself 'why'?

PS And no 'Stuk', this is not some internet conspiracy. T'is a fact bud.


I agree with you that Jews are disproportionately present in positions of power in America, in politics, media, finance.....however.....and it's a big however.

That's a factor of high IQ not a conspiracy. While it's true that Jews as a group tend to vote left in domestic American politic 2/3....and right on Israel by roughly the same.....this is far more a cultural hangover from their historical past.

It isn't a group of Jews in a room rubbing their hands together conspiring on western destruction.

But I would agree....as I say...that the Jewish lobbies are too powerful in the US.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 May 2018 9.31pm)

 


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.TUX. Flag 09 May 18 10.39pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


I agree with you that Jews are disproportionately present in positions of power in America, in politics, media, finance.....however.....and it's a big however.

That's a factor of high IQ not a conspiracy. While it's true that Jews as a group tend to vote left in domestic American politic 2/3....and right on Israel by roughly the same.....this is far more a cultural hangover from their historical past.

It isn't a group of Jews in a room rubbing their hands together conspiring on western destruction.

But I would agree....as I say...that the Jewish lobbies are too powerful in the US.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 May 2018 9.31pm)

I'm not doubting their IQ, that's fine. I just doubt, when i continually see 'dumb-arses' being screwed by a system designed by those with high IQ's, their motives.
And you're right, it's not a conspiracy. There are far too many facts (available to us all) to show the truth. Fact #1.....We live it


 


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DanH Flag SW2 09 May 18 10.49pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

All you conspiracy theorists need to have your access to the internet taken away. Bunch of nutters.

Can you post this on every thread in this forum please mate and save everyone a lot of time

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 09 May 18 10.49pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by .TUX.

I'm not doubting their IQ, that's fine. I just doubt, when i continually see 'dumb-arses' being screwed by a system designed by those with high IQ's, their motives.
And you're right, it's not a conspiracy. There are far too many facts (available to us all) to show the truth. Fact #1.....We live it


Well, essentially I agree with you.

When you look around and observe how the world works. You begin to understand a lot that isn't explicitly presented to you. Mind you, without an understanding of basic human nature a lot of people go overboard, get paranoid and lose it.


Edited by Stirlingsays (09 May 2018 10.51pm)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 09 May 18 10.52pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Can you post this on every thread in this forum please mate and save everyone a lot of time

Just head off to the bbs mate and join up with the kind of nutters you obviously prefer.

 


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serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 09 May 18 11.07pm Send a Private Message to serial thriller Add serial thriller as a friend

Chomsky said that the neoconservatives are the most dangerous threat to the safety of humanity and here I fear he’s being proved right here.

There was very little evidence that Iran’s government under rouhani was ever planning to build nuclear weapons. Since the deal was reached from what I’m aware, it has in fact been the Americans who have been internationally recognised as breaking more terms of the deal, and yet here we have a delusional and reactionary American president defying all other international actors by claiming they are the ones who’ve been defied? what is even the end goal of this lie, to provoke the conservatives in the Iranian government to become North Korea mark 2 and start building for a nuclear war?

I just had the misfortune of watching Evan Davis on Newsnight talking to a very eloquent and tragic professor in Tehran who has survived two chemical gas attacks (weapons provided to Saddam by America) going through the history of US Iran relations before being cut off mid flow, presumably because we can’t allow the other sides story to be told to the public.

As for the weird Jew conspiracies on here...yeah maybe Israel played a part, but would you listen to yourselves?If you were members of Momentum you’d be on the front of the Sunday Times tomorrow!

 


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