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 saveloy  carmarthen 31 Mar 18 8.51pm |
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Poll on BTsport still stating Swarbrick got it right saying that there's deliberate handball and handball where he didn't do it for his own advantage,to me deliberate is exactly that.
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Spiderman  Horsham 31 Mar 18 8.53pm |
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Originally posted by boo909
Whilst I agree it may not have changed the result, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the Manι handball incident Willo, don't chicken out on us I think his silence on the matter speaks volumes, after his "tipple" it will be I dont want to turn this into another Willo thread.
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| crystal-purley Purley 31 Mar 18 9.23pm |
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I do not see the difference between a defender handling on the line and receiving a red and a striker diving but only receiving a yellow. Edited by crystal-purley (31 Mar 2018 9.26pm)
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| Dangermouse Hastings 31 Mar 18 11.26pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
The referee was spot-on with the penalty and deservedly awarded a yellow to Mane for diving. We don't know how the game would have unfolded if Mane had been sent off but we do know that Benteke's efforts in front of goal were embarrassing and Sakho was responsible for inept defending for the 2 Liverpool goals. This is why we lost, NOT because of the referee who overall had a very good game. Going out now for a tipple or two and watching the big fight ! Edited by Willo (31 Mar 2018 8.31pm) Total waffle.
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 grumpymort  US/Thailand/UK 01 Apr 18 12.03am |
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Originally posted by Dangermouse
Total waffle.
they really need to re write a set in stone all the offenses that should be booked theres only handful that are set which mostly relates to goalkeeper. this is the same with the mane dive/pen contact is made so they say that is always a pen but he dived short while after (klopp made me laugh making out the pain kicked in after which is why that guy is clearly on drugs) the ref did alright first half second half he was like a different person i wonder at times if someone is in there ear telling them how the game should go too often this happens with big teams
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| Dangermouse Hastings 01 Apr 18 12.13am |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
they really need to re write a set in stone all the offenses that should be booked theres only handful that are set which mostly relates to goalkeeper. this is the same with the mane dive/pen contact is made so they say that is always a pen but he dived short while after (klopp made me laugh making out the pain kicked in after which is why that guy is clearly on drugs) the ref did alright first half second half he was like a different person i wonder at times if someone is in there ear telling them how the game should go too often this happens with big teams Deliberate handball is a yellow card offence. To do it to stop an attacker going through makes it a straight red. Edited by Dangermouse (01 Apr 2018 12.13am)
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| eagle@ tn34 hastings 01 Apr 18 12.49am |
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from my reffing experience the incident warranted a yellow card as the player pulled the ball towards him with his hand. You can be lenient if the player falls on the ball or brushes it with their hand but HE picked the bloody thing up. COYP
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Apr 18 1.14am |
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Originally posted by eagle@ tn34
from my reffing experience the incident warranted a yellow card as the player pulled the ball towards him with his hand. You can be lenient if the player falls on the ball or brushes it with their hand but HE picked the bloody thing up. COYP A deliberate handball does not automatically mean a caution. The Law states : There are circumstances when a caution for unsporting In terms of the incident involving Mane, there is no dispute that he deliberately handled but he might have done so because he thought he had been fouled hence a free kick. In terms of an opponent gaining possession if my recollection is correct, McCarthy was not near the ball and Mane was nearest to it and was favourite to get to it first. Obviously I don't know what was going through the referees mind so any comment as to the possibilities would be pure speculation. In any event the debate is about the referee who at the end of the day didn't lose us the game,in fact he made an excellent decision NOT to award a penalty when Mane went to ground.Step forward Messrs Benteke and Sakho who certainly played their part in our defeat.
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| Wilbraham413 01 Apr 18 2.02am |
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Post match, Klopp himself said it should have been a red card. He said he had no idea what the ref was thinking. He also complained about our penalty, and their non-penalty, and the yellow on Mane for diving, but he seemed to think that the second yellow on Mane should have been no question.
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| RH8Eagle Oxted 01 Apr 18 2.14am |
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Originally posted by Willo
A deliberate handball does not automatically mean a caution. The Law states : There are circumstances when a caution for unsporting In terms of the incident involving Mane, there is no dispute that he deliberately handled but he might have done so because he thought he had been fouled hence a free kick. In terms of an opponent gaining possession if my recollection is correct, McCarthy was not near the ball and Mane was nearest to it and was favourite to get to it first. Obviously I don't know what was going through the referees mind so any comment as to the possibilities would be pure speculation. In any event the debate is about the referee who at the end of the day didn't lose us the game,in fact he made an excellent decision NOT to award a penalty when Mane went to ground.Step forward Messrs Benteke and Sakho who certainly played their part in our defeat.
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| Bullhorn76 Darlington 01 Apr 18 7.09am |
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Looking back at the handball you couldnt get more deliberate , I mean look at the Watford v Bournemouth game yesterday where the Watford player did a maradona still punch to put the ball out of play he received a yellow and conceded a penalty , moment of madness if Ive ever seen one
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| grumpymort US/Thailand/UK 01 Apr 18 8.15am |
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Regarding our Penalty in some ways you can say we was lucky because Wilfs foot was way too high so ref would of stopped the game for that. At the end of the day we threw away another game it was nothing to do with the ref and had Mane been sent off whos to say we would of gone on to win anyway the past has shown we don't do well against 10 men
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