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palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 20 Mar 18 11.32pm Send a Private Message to palace_in_frogland Add palace_in_frogland as a friend

Originally posted by martin2412

I hope nobody starts a thread about circumcision then

Did you hear about the little Jewish boy who lost his pullover?

 

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Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 21 Mar 18 12.13am Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

A prison sentence for telling the wrong joke. Let that sink in. I mean it's something from a Communist or Nazi regime.

We are on a dangerous road... What happened to this guy could happen to ANY of us.

Edited by Penge Eagle (21 Mar 2018 12.15am)

 

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Ouzo Dan Flag Behind you 21 Mar 18 1.04am Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

Inmate: what you in for?
Dankula: my pug is a nazi

 


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Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 21 Mar 18 8.16am Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

Ricky Gervais and the Jewish David Baddiel are in support of Count Dankula.

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 21 Mar 18 10.00am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by martin2412

Along similar lines, I'd be interesred to hear why the mods pulled my post today about Tottenham being Jewish, in the thread about Spurs making a derisory £40 millon bid for Zaha.

It was a joke ffs. That's all. The Jewish are known for being careful with their money.

If some poor little soul was offended by that then they need to either get a life or counselling.

It was this poor little soul who deleted your insulting post but I won't do it again as next time you insult a large proportion of this forum's members it will be a red card.


 

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topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 21 Mar 18 10.26am Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

He should have taught the dog to apologise in court.

 


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Ketteridge Flag Brighton 21 Mar 18 10.54am Send a Private Message to Ketteridge Add Ketteridge as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Ha...the paradox of stating that you agree with the imprisoning of certain people over offence while you quote Voltaire...because you view some more worthy than others!.....By the way that isn't actually a real quote from Voltaire but a summary of his beliefs.

I'm not stopping your right to expression....and I wouldn't agree with you being punished for expressing your views. However, your replies thus far seem tone deaf to the points made and just restate your position....what's the point, but ok I'll answer a point you make.

You mention comedians you like and the sex pistols and make a point that you can defend them because you could see justified 'commentary' in their offence......Wow...boy that is weak.....You ever considered that far more relevant to them was making money and that shock value enabled it? You viewing their 'offence' as defendable but not others is extremely subjective.

It's a point made on very unsteady ground.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Mar 2018 10.41pm)


Firstly he hasn't been sentenced yet and I haven't said he should be imprisoned.
Secondly, I don't like Frankie Boyle or the sex psitols the point of mentioning them is that at some points offence can be justitified for creativity.
I am not free to say and do what ever I like, I am not free to go to the Whitgift centre and shout obsecnities at the top of my voice, my local pub wouldn't be able to put hardcore p*** on the big screen over Sunday lunch time however much it might increase turnover. There are laws governing what we can and can't do which are generally social agreed but in some case enshrined in law.
I would defend Ken Livingstones right to say Hitler was a Zionist, I would defend the right of James McLean not to wear a poppy, I would defend the right of David Irving to deny the holocaust or Omar Bakri's right to call for Shari law. Personally, I would like to see these views discussed openly and on tv and the evidence they are based on tested. I consider it far better for them to be fully debated in public view then stuck away in places where it gains credibility and never fully appraised.
I won't defend the right of James McClean to go Warrington or Einniskillen shouting up the 'RA, I would not defend the right of David Irving to go to a Synagogue and wearing a comedy Hitler costume . The point that these are catergorical different to reasoned debate seems an obvious one. Count Dankula falls in the latter catergory rather than reasoned debate and dialogue.

 


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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 21 Mar 18 12.34pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

It was this poor little soul who deleted your insulting post but I won't do it again as next time you insult a large proportion of this forum's members it will be a red card.



Thats a bold step Midlands....I'm Jewish and I wasnt offended by it one little bit! You're in danger of becoming an parody of this thread.

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 21 Mar 18 12.45pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550


Thats a bold step Midlands....I'm Jewish and I wasnt offended by it one little bit! You're in danger of becoming an parody of this thread.

I seem to recall a Jewish joke that was a bit insulting a year ago and quite a few Jewish members were up in arms over it

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 21 Mar 18 1.04pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I seem to recall a Jewish joke that was a bit insulting a year ago and quite a few Jewish members were up in arms over it

This is my take.

In my view Jews, in general, are great. I also like Jewish jokes......Jewish comedians make some of the best tellers of those jokes.

Some jokes are in bad taste and perhaps people should be told so....but sod courts and jails.

But a general truth...in my view, is that we should be allowed to make a joke about anything.

It shouldn't always be put down to insidious motive......and victim seekers worsen the environment for everybody.

But apparently we live in an age where a joke involving a stereotype of some group is a kind of unspeakable thought crime.

I think future generations will ridicule this one.

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 21 Mar 18 1.30pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Some jokes are in bad taste and perhaps people should be told so....but sod courts and jails.

We now seem to be talking about two separate things as we were originally talking about the dog and now it's whether or not we should allow rather insulting comments about Jewish people on this forum.

My personal take on the latter is that we shouldn't allow any comments from someone that they wouldn't make to a group of people in the pub that they didn't know.

 

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 21 Mar 18 1.34pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

This is my take.

In my view Jews, in general, are great. I also like Jewish jokes......Jewish comedians make some of the best tellers of those jokes.

Some jokes are in bad taste and perhaps people should be told so....but sod courts and jails.

But a general truth...in my view, is that we should be allowed to make a joke about anything.

It shouldn't always be put down to insidious motive......and victim seekers worsen the environment for everybody.

But apparently we live in an age where a joke involving a stereotype of some group is a kind of unspeakable thought crime.

I think future generations will ridicule this one.

I think it's important to understand the uses to which humour is put. It is regularly used as a disguise for venal attacks. The Brits are well know across Europe for doing this and being inscrutible, or even two-faced.

We should not defend each and every insult or lack of empathy by saying it's OK because it's humour.

 

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