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sitdownstandup 24 Feb 18 4.27pm | |
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Originally posted by johnfirewall
Someone spell out this chlorinated chicken thing for me. Really not sure how'd we'd be forced to accept it, any more than we would under Europe's TTIP deal with the US. Edited by johnfirewall (24 Feb 2018 2.42pm)
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Lyons550 Shirley 26 Feb 18 7.57am | |
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Originally posted by europalace
Yes that's correct but that is only being done so that business can continue uninterrupted after the transition period is over with regards to standards. From that point forward, any law can be changed by UK parliament. That's the whole point of copying the EU laws over, they allow them to be changed once the UK fully leaves the EU. Any changes can't be made overnight the day after the UK leaves the EU. A bit like software code, you take a copy to make changes in order to change the functionality. You don't start from a blank sheet of paper if there is a working set of code available. Edited by europalace (24 Feb 2018 3.36pm) So youre suggesting that we'll spend all that time and effort adding the EU legislation to our own laws and bils...only to then change them back at a latter date....????
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sitdownstandup 26 Feb 18 12.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Stuk
I do, but I don't live in America. And you're reading subjective material. The bold part is truly laughable. I'm not arguing against vegans, i'm ignoring them wherever possible and letting them carry on as they like. It'd be nice if they could have the same courtesy to those that aren't. It's laughable that 10 years ago people had little idea about what goes on in slaughterhouses???? Where then did they get their information from? Not from the internet, not from youtube and certainly not from the meat industry. The meat industry still hides most of what happens in slaughterhouses as much as it can. Most people that eat meat don't want to know what happens in slaughterhouses. The more they see and find out the more likely they are to stop eating it. That's what's happening now. As more and more information gets out more people are cutting down or stopping eating meat and if this had been known 10 - 20 years ago rather than people assuming that animals were well cared for and kept in decent conditions the number of vegans now would be a lot greater than it currently is. The information Im reading isn't subjective it's factual. The information the meat industry discloses is generally questionable and when it's honest it's usually quite shocking. Vegans would allow meat eaters to carry on as they like if it wasn't for the fact their choices are causing unnecessary suffering for billions of animals. Also, the fact that eating meat leads to an increase in the probability of developing health problems such as diabetes, obesity and heart disease and the damaging effect of eating meat on the environment means that we have to make our voices heard or the meat eaters will just continue doing what they are doing destroying themselves and everything else on our planet. Edited by sitdownstandup (26 Feb 2018 12.18pm)
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europalace Europe 26 Feb 18 4.13pm | |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
So youre suggesting that we'll spend all that time and effort adding the EU legislation to our own laws and bils...only to then change them back at a latter date....???? Yep, it's called the Great Repeal Bill. However, many laws will remain the same, especially for maintaining any trade with the EU as goods and services will have to meet EU standards to be traded there. Here you go: "All existing EU legislation will be copied across into domestic UK law to ensure a smooth transition on the day after Brexit" "EU Withdrawal Bill: A guide to the Brexit repeal legislation"
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Hrolf The Ganger 26 Feb 18 6.18pm | |
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Originally posted by sitdownstandup
It's laughable that 10 years ago people had little idea about what goes on in slaughterhouses???? Where then did they get their information from? Not from the internet, not from youtube and certainly not from the meat industry. The meat industry still hides most of what happens in slaughterhouses as much as it can. Most people that eat meat don't want to know what happens in slaughterhouses. The more they see and find out the more likely they are to stop eating it. That's what's happening now. As more and more information gets out more people are cutting down or stopping eating meat and if this had been known 10 - 20 years ago rather than people assuming that animals were well cared for and kept in decent conditions the number of vegans now would be a lot greater than it currently is. The information Im reading isn't subjective it's factual. The information the meat industry discloses is generally questionable and when it's honest it's usually quite shocking. Vegans would allow meat eaters to carry on as they like if it wasn't for the fact their choices are causing unnecessary suffering for billions of animals. Also, the fact that eating meat leads to an increase in the probability of developing health problems such as diabetes, obesity and heart disease and the damaging effect of eating meat on the environment means that we have to make our voices heard or the meat eaters will just continue doing what they are doing destroying themselves and everything else on our planet. Edited by sitdownstandup (26 Feb 2018 12.18pm) What rubbish. Plenty of people knew. The 'meat eaters' will continue to eat meat because meat tastes good and is nutritious. They are also in a large majority despite your efforts to make them sound like some kind of cult. Maybe you shold eat some meat and grow some more brain cells.
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sitdownstandup 26 Feb 18 8.52pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What rubbish. Plenty of people knew. The 'meat eaters' will continue to eat meat because meat tastes good and is nutritious. They are also in a large majority despite your efforts to make them sound like some kind of cult. Maybe you shold eat some meat and grow some more brain cells. Eating meat is also linked to an increased likelihood of developng diseases such as alzeihemer's and as time goes by there'll be more health problems to worry about linked to its consumption as buinesses try to keep costs low. A lot of the most intelligent people in history didnt eat meat - Da Vinci, Pythagoras, Einstein, Gandhi and Tolstoy were all vegetarians. Edited by sitdownstandup (26 Feb 2018 8.57pm)
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cryrst The garden of England 26 Feb 18 9.15pm | |
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Originally posted by sitdownstandup
It's laughable that 10 years ago people had little idea about what goes on in slaughterhouses???? Where then did they get their information from? Not from the internet, not from youtube and certainly not from the meat industry. The meat industry still hides most of what happens in slaughterhouses as much as it can. Most people that eat meat don't want to know what happens in slaughterhouses. The more they see and find out the more likely they are to stop eating it. That's what's happening now. As more and more information gets out more people are cutting down or stopping eating meat and if this had been known 10 - 20 years ago rather than people assuming that animals were well cared for and kept in decent conditions the number of vegans now would be a lot greater than it currently is. The information Im reading isn't subjective it's factual. The information the meat industry discloses is generally questionable and when it's honest it's usually quite shocking. Vegans would allow meat eaters to carry on as they like if it wasn't for the fact their choices are causing unnecessary suffering for billions of animals. Also, the fact that eating meat leads to an increase in the probability of developing health problems such as diabetes, obesity and heart disease and the damaging effect of eating meat on the environment means that we have to make our voices heard or the meat eaters will just continue doing what they are doing destroying themselves and everything else on our planet. Edited by sitdownstandup (26 Feb 2018 12.18pm) When you say most don't want to know what happens in slaughter houses it is a win win statement for you to back your cause.
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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 26 Feb 18 9.26pm | |
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Originally posted by sitdownstandup
Eating meat is also linked to an increased likelihood of developng diseases such as alzeihemer's and as time goes by there'll be more health problems to worry about linked to its consumption as buinesses try to keep costs low. A lot of the most intelligent people in history didnt eat meat - Da Vinci, Pythagoras, Einstein, Gandhi and Tolstoy were all vegetarians. Edited by sitdownstandup (26 Feb 2018 8.57pm) Surely you mean eating excessive and also too much process meat as opposed to meat per se? Or does that not fit the agenda. As for clever vegetarians, is that because or in spite of their diet? It’s ok I know the answer
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sitdownstandup 26 Feb 18 9.37pm | |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Surely you mean eating excessive and also too much process meat as opposed to meat per se? Or does that not fit the agenda. As for clever vegetarians, is that because or in spite of their diet? It’s ok I know the answer The conditions that the animals are kept in, the antibiotics and the growth hormones they are given mean you are not just eating their bodies but also the drugs they have been injected with too which cannot be good for your health. Or does that not fit the agenda. As for clever vegetarians, is that because or in spite of their diet? It’s ok I know the answer. Edited by sitdownstandup (26 Feb 2018 9.47pm)
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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 26 Feb 18 9.40pm | |
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Originally posted by sitdownstandup
So you'll understand that clever people weighing up the pros and cons will eventually stop eating meat and the most intelligent people have always known that. No, it shows that some of the most intelligent (by your reckoning) were vegetarians, Conversely some of them weren't
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steeleye20 Croydon 26 Feb 18 9.54pm | |
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Since I have reduced meat in my diet I have definitely become more intelligent.
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Hrolf The Ganger 26 Feb 18 10.02pm | |
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Originally posted by sitdownstandup
The conditions that the animals are kept in, the antibiotics and the growth hormones they are given mean you are not just eating their bodies but also the drugs they have been injected with too which cannot be good for your health. Or does that not fit the agenda. As for clever vegetarians, is that because or in spite of their diet? It’s ok I know the answer. Edited by sitdownstandup (26 Feb 2018 9.47pm) So vegetarianism is linked to intelligence? Care to prove this with data?
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