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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 12 Feb 18 5.09pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Gyro1780

All i want is for us to get our transfers sorted early instead of leaving it until the last day & running out of time.

If we stay up & i think we will then we need to get organized for the summer. Think we'll need 6-7 players.

So do managers and when we started fully prepared we got to 5th, not that I expect that or think it's good seeing as lots of clubs lose it a bit from there. Parish got carried away with talk of Euroand Pardew on the England or Chelsea jobs.

When we're not prepared we chuck the 1st 3 to 7 games or so. Madness.

 


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MrCParrot Flag Taunton 12 Feb 18 5.10pm Send a Private Message to MrCParrot Add MrCParrot as a friend

I think Parish has done really well.

He's not a billionaire, his pocket is deep but not top 4 deep.

The plans for Selhurst are superb.

He freely admits he is still learning.

He is bringing community people into the club, don't forget how good Palace for Life has become.

Be careful what you wish for.

 


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Bangell Flag Oxford 12 Feb 18 5.24pm Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Same transfer mistakes again and again, which may finally cost us our PL status this season.

 

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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 12 Feb 18 5.31pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

In terms of Infrastructure ...Stadium, training facilities, academy, scouting team, ...Stoke/Southampton are now very big clubs.

And we are above them, even after a dreadful start.

in Parish we trust.

 


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Maine Eagle Flag USA 12 Feb 18 5.51pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by MrCParrot

I think Parish has done really well.

He's not a billionaire, his pocket is deep but not top 4 deep.

The plans for Selhurst are superb.

He freely admits he is still learning.

He is bringing community people into the club, don't forget how good Palace for Life has become.

Be careful what you wish for.

It is way, way too late to "still be learning" how to run transfers at a premier league club, and how to manage squad depth properly.

Parish can run the non football side of the club until he is old as far as I am concerned; that would be excellent actually. That is what he is good at. He aint no football man, though, guv.

This isn't about money, its about ego, and being incredibly stubborn.

There is no excuse at all for not signing a striker in the last window (Benteke gets injured right away) and not signing a goalie in the last (lo and behold Jules goes down immediately after the window).

There is no excuse to continually leaving important transfers until the very end of the window - meanwhile games get played and points go begging potentially.

There is no excuse for getting the FDB situation so horrendously wrong, after taking 2 weeks too long.

There is no excuse for not firing Holloway and Pardew sooner, Holloway had to beg to be fired. The Pardew situation was an absolute joke.

No excuse for bringing in Warnock.

No excuse for lack of full back depth to replace Souare and challenge Ward in days gone by.

The list is endless. Too many howlers, too many shocking mistakes and errors, and they just keep coming. FDB was his biggest foul up of all time and he just did that. He should be way beyond errors of that spectacular magnitude at this stage of the game.

I would like Parish to recognize the fact the he is not cut out to run transfers, appoint managers, and man-manage managers. He is very poor in these areas. One day its going to cost us.

 


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lil j-eagle Flag little bookham 12 Feb 18 6.00pm Send a Private Message to lil j-eagle Add lil j-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

You can say all you want about Parish presiding over our most lengthy stint in the prem in history. He certainly has and you cannot take that away from him.

Problem is he is also showing us year after year, transfer window after transfer window that he cannot move the club on from perennial relegation dog fight fodder.

If Parish is not capable of leading us to some kind of mid table mediocrity, then I would just love to see someone else given a chance to run transfers and managerial appointments.

Parish knows business, but he doesn't know football it seems, even after all of these years.

I think we will stay up by the skin of our teeth, and I am not just posting this because we just got tonked, we were on a pretty good run until then. I just cannot believe in SP to move the club forward anymore, as he hasn't really been able to do it at all since Holloway brought us up all those years ago.

Yes we have been unlucky with injury after injury, but the constant spectre of relegation once again looms large, years after we first popped up into the league.

Its terrible decision after terrible decision, not signing a striker last window, not signing a goalie this time, appointing FDB after weeks of messing around, to name a few.

You can say all you want about transfers, other teams moving the goalposts, agents playing games, players messing around etc etc. Its the same for everyone, yet other clubs find ways to get their critical signings over the line, and we dont, time and time again.

We will never know the inner workings of the club re transfers or anything else, but what we see is the results of those efforts. For example we dont know what Parish did for those painful drawn out weeks while selecting FDB, but we saw the end result didn't we.

The results have been p&ss poor for a long, long time.

I think the issues we've had progressing from perennial relegation strugglers have stemmed from arguably getting promoted too early.

If you look at when we got promoted, it was largely down to an overachieving run in the autumn, and I would say the only really prem standard players were Zaha, Bolasie, Jedinak, Speroni and Murray (honorable mention to Delaney who worked hard enough to not look out of place in the prem - but equally didn't exactly shine in the champ). When you consider that Zaha and Murray weren't available for the first 6/12 months we have had to buy, not only almost a new first XI, but also replace those that were prem standard and left.

I have seen recently that Palace have assembled something like the 15th most expensive squad in Europe, and with Bolasie and Zaha the only major player sales in that time, that has largely been funded by the owners and our first 2 overachieving seasons. I think there needs to be great caution in attempting to run before you can walk when it comes to running a football club because we can oh so easily end up in a right mess.

I'd also point out that progressing from relegation strugglers to midtable mainstays sustain-ably for any club outside the top 7 (and previously clubs like villa) is extremely difficult. Even clubs such as Southampton and Swansea whose management have previously been highly praised - got promoted more gradually, had a certain identity, had real top quality players - have still ended up down near the bottom after a couple of years of "mid-table mediocrity".

The way I see it is everyone outside the top 7 has a premier league lifespan of maximum 8-10 years and the length of this lifespan seems to be determined by how many good/bad decisions you make in a row which, incidentally, there doesn't seem to be much reason or pattern behind why they are good/bad. Parish seems to make a habit of alternating from good to bad and I don't think there are many others out there who could drastically improve on that (except of course for the hordes of captain hindsights who would have made every single correct decision ever).


 


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Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 12 Feb 18 6.04pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

The Americans may well have had a big hand in our a change of emphasis in our transfer policy.

You can blame Parish for that -- he accepted their dollar -- but it does mean some caution may be wise when calling for Parish to go.

 


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palace99 Flag New Mills 12 Feb 18 6.04pm

on balance i'm more positive towards SP than negative and will always be grateful for CPFC2010 buying the club (when no one else wanted to) but an additional negative has to be our wage bill.

For a club of our size it has gone through the roof in the last few years.

We now have at least 3 players on more than £100k a week - Benteke, Sakho and Wilf yet even Leicester have a max of £100k a week (Vardy and Mahrez) and teams like Burnley probably don't have anyone on more than say £50k.

We now have an imbalance in the squad with people on big wages just not pulling their weight - Cabaye, Tekkers and Townsend spring immediately to mind.

I blame him for this and less for transfers, as the transfer policy has to be mainly the manager's responsibility

 

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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 12 Feb 18 6.04pm

Originally posted by Thereandbackagain

I live in a three bedroom house and want to live in a Mansion , reason I can't is I don't have enough money to do this ....Maybe I could do up my house and turn it into a mansion with my family ...hang on !! my sons and wife ( my team )are no good as they cant paint or do DIY , so for now I am stuck with my three bedroom house which is OK ....Maybe as head of the house I could bring in another head of the house and see if they can turn my Three bedroom house into a mansion with not a lot of money ??? or I could just plod along in my three bedroom house and except it was better than my one bed flat and be happy as I am

With the greatest respect mate - i'd be more worried about living in Crawley than how many bedrooms you have

 


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thegreatlardino Flag crawley/selsey 12 Feb 18 6.06pm Send a Private Message to thegreatlardino Add thegreatlardino as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

With the greatest respect mate - i'd be more worried about living in Crawley than how many bedrooms you have

oooh you snob!

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 12 Feb 18 6.08pm

Originally posted by thegreatlardino

oooh you snob!


Living in Croydon its not often one gets to feel like a snob

 


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jeeagles Flag 12 Feb 18 6.16pm

This is our longest ever run in the top flight.

Do try and pull yourself together.

 

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