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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Jan 18 11.01pm
Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan I saw that, but does that make the victory "deserved"? Gambling on luck from set pieces? I don't think so. Its an awful way of playing football and a disgraceful way of playing home games. Or am I losing the plot, having still a vague idea football is about entertainment? Edited by DutchEagleJohan (22 Jan 2018 10.50pm) If we had played like Swansea and got the victory we would all be delighted.If we had lost an "Entertaining" game 4-3 we would have been upset ! Overall the game tonight was certainly not a spectacle because of the way Swansea approached the game but in the circumstances it was understandable and they got more than they ever expected to get - they would have taken a draw.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Jan 18 11.01pm

Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan

I saw that, but does that make the victory "deserved"? Gambling on luck from set pieces? I don't think so. Its an awful way of playing football and a disgraceful way of playing home games. Or am I losing the plot, having still a vague idea football is about entertainment?

Edited by DutchEagleJohan (22 Jan 2018 10.50pm)

If we had played like Swansea and got the victory we would all be delighted.If we had lost an "Entertaining" game 4-3 we would have been upset !

Overall the game tonight was certainly not a spectacle because of the way Swansea approached the game but in the circumstances it was understandable and they got more than they ever expected to get - they would have taken a draw.

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alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 22 Jan 18 11.06pm
Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan I saw that, but does that make the victory "deserved"? Gambling on luck from set pieces? I don't think so. Its an awful way of playing football and a disgraceful way of playing home games. Or am I losing the plot, having still a vague idea football is about entertainment? Edited by DutchEagleJohan (22 Jan 2018 10.50pm) Johan,the trouble with this League is you now clearly have the Top 6. They play for the title and Europe. You then this season have Burnley,Leicester who have accumulated Enough points and then the remaining 12 teams trying to stay up. Swansea had no intention of attacking yet won and Newcastle played similar against Man City and lost. It’s now try to get to 40 ASAP. Palace 13th 2017/18.
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alaneagle1

Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 22 Jan 18 11.06pm

Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan

Edited by DutchEagleJohan (22 Jan 2018 10.50pm)

Johan,the trouble with this League is you now clearly have the Top 6.
They play for the title and Europe.
You then this season have Burnley,Leicester who have accumulated
Enough points and then the remaining 12 teams trying to stay up.
Swansea had no intention of attacking yet won and Newcastle played similar against Man City and lost.
It’s now try to get to 40 ASAP.

Palace 13th 2017/18.

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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 23 Jan 18 9.11am
Well alaneagle, we can be entertained as much in the Second division as in the Prem. What do you prefer?
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adrian b

Landrindod, Wales 23 Jan 18 9.11am

Well alaneagle, we can be entertained as much in the Second division as in the Prem. What do you prefer?

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southnorwoodhill 23 Jan 18 9.25am
Congratulations to Swansea, they showed real resilience when under the cosh. Our destiny is in our own hands, no more performances like against Arsenal please!
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Congratulations to Swansea, they showed real resilience when under the cosh. Our destiny is in our own hands, no more performances like against Arsenal please!

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Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 23 Jan 18 11.46am
Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan I saw that, but does that make the victory "deserved"? Gambling on luck from set pieces? I don't think so. Its an awful way of playing football and a disgraceful way of playing home games. Or am I losing the plot, having still a vague idea football is about entertainment? Edited by DutchEagleJohan (22 Jan 2018 10.50pm) The Premier League is where the entertainment is. If playing a certain way keeps a team up at the expense of entertainment, then you can bank on it that a team will sacrifice entertainment to stay in the big league. They can then work in a way to be more entertaining next season. Makes perfect sense to me. "We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...
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Front line in the battle against t... 23 Jan 18 11.46am

Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan

Edited by DutchEagleJohan (22 Jan 2018 10.50pm)

The Premier League is where the entertainment is. If playing a certain way keeps a team up at the expense of entertainment, then you can bank on it that a team will sacrifice entertainment to stay in the big league. They can then work in a way to be more entertaining next season. Makes perfect sense to me.

"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...

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alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 23 Jan 18 12.10pm
Originally posted by adrian b Well alaneagle, we can be entertained as much in the Second division as in the Prem. What do you prefer? Obviously the Premiership.Just explaining what actually happens in this League. Do not want to see Championship Football again,empty stadiums. Will be happy for Palace to improve one position each season. And hopefully Win something. Palace 13th 2017/18.
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alaneagle1

Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 23 Jan 18 12.10pm

Originally posted by adrian b

Well alaneagle, we can be entertained as much in the Second division as in the Prem. What do you prefer?

Obviously the Premiership.Just explaining what actually happens in this League.
Do not want to see Championship Football again,empty stadiums.
Will be happy for Palace to improve one position each season.
And hopefully Win something.

Palace 13th 2017/18.

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Pigglelet Deepest Darkest Sussex 23 Jan 18 4.34pm
I’m sure most of you get as concerned as I do when we see a top six side has dropped points to a team around us especially when, as now, we are in a relegation battle. It might be that the lower team has played particularly well, but it’s often the case that, for whatever reason, the other side simply doesn’t turn up. I’m naming no names, but I think we can all tell when a team hasn’t put in a decent shift. Having a bit of time on my hands, I thought I would carry out a quick analysis of the points dropped this season by the top six when playing our closest rivals. For the purposes of this, I’ve considered every team from Watford down as a rival. Not surprisingly, none of our rivals have taken points off Man City. Man Utd have conceded 4 points to rival teams, Chelsea 3 (as well as 3 to us), Liverpool 6, Spurs 5 and Arsenal 12 (although they always seem to play out of their skins against us). We have picked up 4 points from top six sides, as have Stoke and Swansea. Watford and West Ham have picked up 5, Bournemouth, WBA and Huddersfield 3, Southampton and Newcastle 1. Brighton have not yet gained anything from a top six side. In summary, points taken from the top six have been shared around pretty equally amongst us bottom-feeders, but for sheer generosity Arsenal take some beating (or rather they don’t if you catch them on the right day). "Better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt." Mark Twain.
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Pigglelet

Deepest Darkest Sussex 23 Jan 18 4.34pm

I’m sure most of you get as concerned as I do when we see a top six side has dropped points to a team around us especially when, as now, we are in a relegation battle. It might be that the lower team has played particularly well, but it’s often the case that, for whatever reason, the other side simply doesn’t turn up. I’m naming no names, but I think we can all tell when a team hasn’t put in a decent shift.

Having a bit of time on my hands, I thought I would carry out a quick analysis of the points dropped this season by the top six when playing our closest rivals. For the purposes of this, I’ve considered every team from Watford down as a rival.

Not surprisingly, none of our rivals have taken points off Man City. Man Utd have conceded 4 points to rival teams, Chelsea 3 (as well as 3 to us), Liverpool 6, Spurs 5 and Arsenal 12 (although they always seem to play out of their skins against us).

We have picked up 4 points from top six sides, as have Stoke and Swansea. Watford and West Ham have picked up 5, Bournemouth, WBA and Huddersfield 3, Southampton and Newcastle 1. Brighton have not yet gained anything from a top six side.

In summary, points taken from the top six have been shared around pretty equally amongst us bottom-feeders, but for sheer generosity Arsenal take some beating (or rather they don’t if you catch them on the right day).

"Better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt."
Mark Twain.

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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 23 Jan 18 5.04pm
I found Swansea's bus parking very dull. I know we all have to do it a bit, but still...So little intent. Liverpool panicked a bit when they fell behind and it became clear Salah was off form. If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.
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I found Swansea's bus parking very dull. I know we all have to do it a bit, but still...So little intent. Liverpool panicked a bit when they fell behind and it became clear Salah was off form.

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

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Pierre Purley 23 Jan 18 5.23pm
Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig I found Swansea's bus parking very dull. I know we all have to do it a bit, but still...So little intent. Liverpool panicked a bit when they fell behind and it became clear Salah was off form. You may have found it very dull. Go and ask the Swansea fans what thought about it and I think you might get slightly a different assessment! Huge 3 (confidence boosting) points for them. If we had defended better against Arsenal on Saturday (or just defended at all for 25 mins), managed to snatch the lead and then parked the bus would you have said the same thing?
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Purley 23 Jan 18 5.23pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

I found Swansea's bus parking very dull. I know we all have to do it a bit, but still...So little intent. Liverpool panicked a bit when they fell behind and it became clear Salah was off form.

You may have found it very dull. Go and ask the Swansea fans what thought about it and I think you might get slightly a different assessment! Huge 3 (confidence boosting) points for them.
If we had defended better against Arsenal on Saturday (or just defended at all for 25 mins), managed to snatch the lead and then parked the bus would you have said the same thing?

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Spiderman Horsham 23 Jan 18 6.52pm
Originally posted by Pierre You may have found it very dull. Go and ask the Swansea fans what thought about it and I think you might get slightly a different assessment! Huge 3 (confidence boosting) points for them. If we had defended better against Arsenal on Saturday (or just defended at all for 25 mins), managed to snatch the lead and then parked the bus would you have said the same thing? Exactly, it may not be entertaining but it is a necessary tactic for teams like Swansea against teams like Liverpool. My view is if, having spent millions on great players and they cannot break down a defence in 90 minutes whose fault is that? Unfortunately this will become more the norm over the years as the top clubs pull further away with their spending power.
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Spiderman

Horsham 23 Jan 18 6.52pm

Originally posted by Pierre

Exactly, it may not be entertaining but it is a necessary tactic for teams like Swansea against teams like Liverpool. My view is if, having spent millions on great players and they cannot break down a defence in 90 minutes whose fault is that? Unfortunately this will become more the norm over the years as the top clubs pull further away with their spending power.

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VinceHilaire London 23 Jan 18 10.27pm
At the end of the day...it’s a results game. We would have done exactly the same to get a 1-0 over Liverpool. They are now fighting for their lives...just like us!
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London 23 Jan 18 10.27pm