You can't stop something that is based upon human nature. Making something illegal just represses it. The problem with this is that it's about perception.....and also people are frequently dishonest if they have an agenda.

I would partly agree that these ideas aren't strictly a left/right idea now....it's modern incantation comes from progressive feminism where men are viewed as predators. Still, while it does originate from the left it's now filtered into the culture of the conservative party....it was also has parallels with the religious rights ideas about access to women...where everything had to be official and dates were closely monitored.

I don't accept these puritan ideas as desirable or practical at all.

What is being pushed here and what a lot of the modern media push....because they have to have their victim/villain narratives.......would lead to a restricted licensed form of sexuality that doesn't take account of the realities of human interaction....it's the state poking its nose into people's lifes when protections against sex pests already exist.

I have social libertarian views and sexuality is one of them. I'm with the French pushback on this kind of repressive restrictive and totally impractical ideas about how men and women conduct themselves sexually.

Anyone who has frequently gone to a nightclub.....would see that this would criminise many many people.

I say again....what does this actually mean in practical terms......who decides on what counts as 'unequivocal'. Do we have to record something? Is this going to count for the reverse situation of women coming onto men as well?

It's ridiculous. As soon as this became a law you would be flooded with false claims in with real ones. You would have the sexually awkward criminised.

When people push silly ideas it does get robust treatment...you want to criminise situations which involve misunderstandings and increase the chance that people are arrested and get their lives ruined via dishonest claims....sure that's going to annoy those interested in fairness.

But lets not go overboard. I welcome your views on here. It's just robust debate that's all.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Jan 2018 3.20am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

@Stirling....

Not editing quotes as I'm on the phone on the train.

Not sure where you got the view that I'm in favour of criminalising perving (paraphrasing). That would be madness.

We need to be very wary of the encroaching snowflake culture, but we also can't excuse blatantly unacceptable or, on the flip side, opportunistic and litigious behaviour.

Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

It's one of the best TV interviews for a while for so many reasons.

Sargon of Akkad's reaction to it is pretty good [Link]

Jordna Petersen analyses [Link]

Edited by Penge Eagle (25 Jan 2018 6.54pm)

BBC are saying that 6 of their top earning male presenters are taking a pay cut. No details about by how much though. I guess we will have to wait until the Beeb publishes its salary numbers later this year.

Just a thought but the BBC has always defended its high pay structure e.g. Jonathon Ross to prevent its stars being poached. Well if these presenters are willing to take a pay cut I guess that means that the other channels are not lining up to sign them. Something the Beeb might want to consider.

One more point

Funny how the virtue-signalling Gary Lineker isn't among those taking a pay cut! Unless I've missed it...

3 hours of political analysis, you need to make some friends in LA.

From what I watched Sargon starts off ok but can't stop falling into a rant at the end.

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."