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Mr Palaceman 30 Dec 17 5.22pm
Originally posted by chris123 The Lib Dems went to their members and got a green light to go into coalition. Ok, does that mean that the most serious pledge they ever made could not have been a red line for them with the tories. That pledge finished them in the next election. That showed me and everyone else in the country exactly what they were trying to avoid, that they cannot be trusted. I believe that if you give your word, you stick to it, even if it costs you. Also that pledge was made at a time when the honesty of politicians was being seriously called into question, that's why they wrote it down and signed it on T.V. But separate from that, he just doesn't deserve to be Sir Nick... IMHO.. Edited by Mr Palaceman (30 Dec 2017 5.24pm) "You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead" Stan Laurel
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30 Dec 17 5.22pm

Originally posted by chris123

The Lib Dems went to their members and got a green light to go into coalition.

Ok, does that mean that the most serious pledge they ever made could not have been a red line for them with the tories. That pledge finished them in the next election.

That showed me and everyone else in the country exactly what they were trying to avoid, that they cannot be trusted. I believe that if you give your word, you stick to it, even if it costs you.

Also that pledge was made at a time when the honesty of politicians was being seriously called into question, that's why they wrote it down and signed it on T.V.

But separate from that, he just doesn't deserve to be Sir Nick... IMHO..

Edited by Mr Palaceman (30 Dec 2017 5.24pm)

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YT Oxford 30 Dec 17 5.24pm
Originally posted by Sportyteacher ...who does deserve a knighthood given that he has been the UK's longest serving Prime Minister... I always understood that Tony Blair stated when he stood down as PM that he didn’t want to be nominated for any honours. Unlike Prescott, of course, who in typical style couldn’t wait to be measured up for his ermine gown. Prescott. Deputy PM. Lord. Clegg. Deputy PM. Knight. If you accept honours in the first place, then the latter seems reasonable by comparison. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 30 Dec 17 5.24pm

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

...who does deserve a knighthood given that he has been the UK's longest serving Prime Minister...

I always understood that Tony Blair stated when he stood down as PM that he didn’t want to be nominated for any honours. Unlike Prescott, of course, who in typical style couldn’t wait to be measured up for his ermine gown.

Prescott. Deputy PM. Lord.
Clegg. Deputy PM. Knight. If you accept honours in the first place, then the latter seems reasonable by comparison.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 30 Dec 17 6.46pm
Originally posted by matt_himself And this w***er gets a knighthood but Farage doesn’t. Sign the petition: [Link] On what grounds would Farage be more eligible than an ex-deputy prime minister, who has sat in parliament for 12 and led the Liberal Democrats to their first ever taste of power in government. I'm not sure that Clegg deserves it, but Farage hasn't even sat in Parliament. Edited by jamiemartin721 (30 Dec 2017 6.49pm) "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 30 Dec 17 6.46pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

And this w***er gets a knighthood but Farage doesn’t.

Sign the petition:

[Link]

On what grounds would Farage be more eligible than an ex-deputy prime minister, who has sat in parliament for 12 and led the Liberal Democrats to their first ever taste of power in government.

I'm not sure that Clegg deserves it, but Farage hasn't even sat in Parliament.

Edited by jamiemartin721 (30 Dec 2017 6.49pm)

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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matt_himself Matataland 30 Dec 17 6.50pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 On what grounds would Farage be more eligible than an ex-deputy prime minister, who has sat in parliament for 12 and led the Liberal Democrats to their first ever taste of power in government. Farage is simply the most important political figure in the UK since Blair. Without him, there would be no Brexit. He has freed us from the ball and chain that is the EU. He deserves a knighthood. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 30 Dec 17 6.50pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

On what grounds would Farage be more eligible than an ex-deputy prime minister, who has sat in parliament for 12 and led the Liberal Democrats to their first ever taste of power in government.

Farage is simply the most important political figure in the UK since Blair. Without him, there would be no Brexit. He has freed us from the ball and chain that is the EU.

He deserves a knighthood.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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YT Oxford 30 Dec 17 7.03pm
Originally posted by matt_himself Farage is simply the most important political figure in the UK since Blair. Without him, there would be no Brexit. He has freed us from the ball and chain that is the EU. He deserves a knighthood. I believe honours are given to politicians (rightly or wrongly is a matter of opinion) for ‘service’ and not for particular campaigns, policies etc. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 30 Dec 17 7.03pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Farage is simply the most important political figure in the UK since Blair. Without him, there would be no Brexit. He has freed us from the ball and chain that is the EU.

He deserves a knighthood.

I believe honours are given to politicians (rightly or wrongly is a matter of opinion) for ‘service’ and not for particular campaigns, policies etc.

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matt_himself Matataland 30 Dec 17 7.21pm
Originally posted by YT I believe honours are given to politicians (rightly or wrongly is a matter of opinion) for ‘service’ and not for particular campaigns, policies etc. He has given service to this country and this state of affairs highlights how ridiculous this country has become. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 30 Dec 17 7.21pm

Originally posted by YT

I believe honours are given to politicians (rightly or wrongly is a matter of opinion) for ‘service’ and not for particular campaigns, policies etc.

He has given service to this country and this state of affairs highlights how ridiculous this country has become.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Badger11 Beckenham 30 Dec 17 8.30pm
This is the type of person who deserves an honour. But of course as she is one of the little people it's only an MBE. A 70yo woman who has spent her life fostering over 100 kids. [Link] One more point
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Beckenham 30 Dec 17 8.30pm

This is the type of person who deserves an honour. But of course as she is one of the little people it's only an MBE. A 70yo woman who has spent her life fostering over 100 kids.

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One more point

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JRW2 Dulwich 30 Dec 17 8.35pm
I don't think there's a single important policy on which I agree with the Lib/Dems, but I believe Clegg has been dealt with ridiculously unfairly. His pledge in respect of further education fees was contained in his party's election manifesto. Manifestos state what a party would do in power, and the simple fact is that he didn't achieve power! Therefore he couldn't implement his pledges. But he has been portrayed by Lib/Dems as a traitorous devil-in-disguise and support for his party has collapsed - which just goes to show what a fluffy mob they are.
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Dulwich 30 Dec 17 8.35pm

I don't think there's a single important policy on which I agree with the Lib/Dems, but I believe Clegg has been dealt with ridiculously unfairly. His pledge in respect of further education fees was contained in his party's election manifesto. Manifestos state what a party would do in power, and the simple fact is that he didn't achieve power! Therefore he couldn't implement his pledges.

But he has been portrayed by Lib/Dems as a traitorous devil-in-disguise and support for his party has collapsed - which just goes to show what a fluffy mob they are.

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chris123 hove actually 30 Dec 17 8.38pm
Originally posted by Mr Palaceman Ok, does that mean that the most serious pledge they ever made could not have been a red line for them with the tories. That pledge finished them in the next election. That showed me and everyone else in the country exactly what they were trying to avoid, that they cannot be trusted. I believe that if you give your word, you stick to it, even if it costs you. Also that pledge was made at a time when the honesty of politicians was being seriously called into question, that's why they wrote it down and signed it on T.V. But separate from that, he just doesn't deserve to be Sir Nick... IMHO.. Edited by Mr Palaceman (30 Dec 2017 5.24pm) Charles Kennedy abstained, but coalitions are often difficult - look at Germany right now, the Social Democrats want to oppose not prop AM again.
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hove actually 30 Dec 17 8.38pm

Originally posted by Mr Palaceman

Ok, does that mean that the most serious pledge they ever made could not have been a red line for them with the tories. That pledge finished them in the next election.

That showed me and everyone else in the country exactly what they were trying to avoid, that they cannot be trusted. I believe that if you give your word, you stick to it, even if it costs you.

Also that pledge was made at a time when the honesty of politicians was being seriously called into question, that's why they wrote it down and signed it on T.V.

But separate from that, he just doesn't deserve to be Sir Nick... IMHO..

Edited by Mr Palaceman (30 Dec 2017 5.24pm)

Charles Kennedy abstained, but coalitions are often difficult - look at Germany right now, the Social Democrats want to oppose not prop AM again.

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leifandersonshair Newport 30 Dec 17 9.16pm
Originally posted by matt_himself He has given service to this country and this state of affairs highlights how ridiculous this country has become. The problem is, a politician is far more likely to get a knighthood by keeping their head down, always voting with their party, never asking questions, and just being in the role for a long time, while never making waves. In this respect, the likes of Farage, Corbyn, Ken Clarke etc invariably torpedo their chances. Also, Clegg stated he was against an unelected upper chamber, so would not be taking up a seat in the Lords (although I don't believe he would be eligible anyway)- but without having enough principles to actually turn down the honour. What a tosser.
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Originally posted by matt_himself

He has given service to this country and this state of affairs highlights how ridiculous this country has become.

The problem is, a politician is far more likely to get a knighthood by keeping their head down, always voting with their party, never asking questions, and just being in the role for a long time, while never making waves.

In this respect, the likes of Farage, Corbyn, Ken Clarke etc invariably torpedo their chances.

Also, Clegg stated he was against an unelected upper chamber, so would not be taking up a seat in the Lords (although I don't believe he would be eligible anyway)- but without having enough principles to actually turn down the honour. What a tosser.

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wordup 31 Dec 17 2.53am
Knighthoods in general are a joke really. Do good because it's the right thing to do, not because you want a pat on the back. Many receiving knighthoods did f*** all anyway, Clegg included.
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31 Dec 17 2.53am

Knighthoods in general are a joke really. Do good because it's the right thing to do, not because you want a pat on the back. Many receiving knighthoods did f*** all anyway, Clegg included.

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kenbarr Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 31 Dec 17 10.08pm
Originally posted by Slimey Toad Yeah, Ringo Starr. I think he co-wrote one Beatles song - We all live in a Yellow Submarine. Genius. Didn't he also have a hand in "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" and "Octopus's Garden?" Divorced...And LOVING it! VJRAM Rev. CPFC since Boxing Day 1989 CPFC 2-2 CFC Gregg Berhalter, US International & USMNT Head Coach Jill Ellis, England International & Retired USWNT Head Coach Trevor Francis, International PRAT
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Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 31 Dec 17 10.08pm

Originally posted by Slimey Toad

Yeah, Ringo Starr. I think he co-wrote one Beatles song - We all live in a Yellow Submarine.

Genius.

Didn't he also have a hand in "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" and "Octopus's Garden?"

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Trevor Francis, International PRAT

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