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dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 05 Mar 18 7.10am Send a Private Message to dp Add dp as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

ward had made more PL appearances for us than any other player...surely that speaks volumes.

and people still doubt hes PL quality...would cost £20m to upgrade him

Yes. That is the point that I was trying to make.

By getting rid of Ward and keeping Wan Bissaka as our number 1 reserve you are introducing a real risk. The only way to deal with that risk is to spend £20 million plus to get proven Premiership quality. By keeping Ward and Wan BIssaka you have an experienced Premiership defender and some potential. Less risky and it allows you to buy someone else, a cheaper option from the continent with potential and let him bed in. If it works out then you can sell Ward, if not you are still in the same place. If Wan BIssaka develops you can make the £20 to £30 million Matteo was talking about and still have 2 options.

The key to moving forward has to be to keep our £60k a week players, mix in some home grown talent, reserve the £100k plus for proven quality and take a chance on some cheap gems. Getting rid of Wardis not the way.

 

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mattteo Flag 05 Mar 18 10.10pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Still stand by your opinion?

Wan-Bissaka's display tonight was better than any Ward display this year or the previous year.

Edited by mattteo (05 Mar 2018 10.11pm)

 

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Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 05 Mar 18 10.12pm Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

Absolutely class player we have in WB.

 

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dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 05 Mar 18 10.18pm Send a Private Message to dp Add dp as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

Still stand by your opinion?

Wan-Bissaka's display tonight was better than any Ward display this year or the previous year.

Edited by mattteo (05 Mar 2018 10.11pm)

Yes. Still stand by the decision that we need to keep the depth in the squad. I think Wan-Bissaka played well mind. I might not be so worried about buying someone else, but I would rather sign Ward to another Contract than spend another £10 million to replace him.

Not my money though.

 

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mattteo Flag 05 Mar 18 10.31pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

You can get better right backs than Ward for very little money, no need to spend 10 million. Just browse the first pages of this thread. And if there will be someone brought in, absolutely no need to keep 3 players for 1 position.

Edited by mattteo (05 Mar 2018 10.31pm)

 

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Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 06 Mar 18 8.49pm Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

Originally posted by dp

Yes. Still stand by the decision that we need to keep the depth in the squad. I think Wan-Bissaka played well mind. I might not be so worried about buying someone else, but I would rather sign Ward to another Contract than spend another £10 million to replace him.

Not my money though.

Agree, give ward a contract extension and let him and WB fill that role. Possibly look for a deputy to WB as Ward has likely only a year or two left in him at this level. But let's spend our limited money elsewhere first...

Two goal keepers please.
Another striker
A play maker or two in central midfield (Cabaye and Jimmy won't last forever)

No need to panic over the right back slot right now if we give Ward an extension. However if we can get a solid back up to WB and Ward for little money it's worth it so we can bed him in before Ward moved on.

Note this is not an anti Ward post, I very much think he's been and will continue to be a solid player for us.

Edited by Goldfiinger (07 Mar 2018 7.55am)

 

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dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 07 Mar 18 6.22am Send a Private Message to dp Add dp as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

You can get better right backs than Ward for very little money, no need to spend 10 million. Just browse the first pages of this thread. And if there will be someone brought in, absolutely no need to keep 3 players for 1 position.

Edited by mattteo (05 Mar 2018 10.31pm)

Either I am not making my point very well, or you are missing my point, or both.

There are two choices in my mind, first we sign Ward on an extension and then look to build a succession plan involving W-B and another (hope) signing that might take us forward OR we don’t sign Ward on a contract extension and sign a proven Premiership quality replacement that will take us forward, with W-B.

Your view, I think, is that we can get rid of Ward for nothing and then sign a cheap replacement as back up to W-B.

I understand your third option, but I don’t agree that it is the way to go. I think it is not dissimilar to the approach we have tried elsewhere (for example Pape Souare, with Zeki Fryers as back up) and it left us hopelessly exposed.

As for your view that we don’t need 3 players for each position - I think that is exactly what we need. But we also need to expose our third choice to the chance to come through.

 

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Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 07 Mar 18 7.54am Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

Totally agree dp

 

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Helmet46 Flag Croydon 07 Mar 18 8.03am Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

Absolutely class player we have in WB.

Yet, none of the Football ‘experts’ we have on here, that throw players names around like confetti, have ever mentioned him as being a contender? What’s his rating on FM or FIFA?

Edited by Helmet46 (07 Mar 2018 8.04am)

 

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mattteo Flag 07 Mar 18 5.07pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by dp


Your view, I think, is that we can get rid of Ward for nothing and then sign a cheap replacement as back up to W-B.


No, you can get rid of Ward and sign a better player than him for cheap. Yedlin was signed by Tottenham for 2 million. Kaderabek was signed by Hoffenheim for 3 million. Marusic was signed by Lazio for 5 million (most assists in the Serie A this season for a right back).

Just this winter, Figueiras was signed by Braga from Olympiakos for 1 million, a much better right back than Ward.

I've made my case for Dany da Costa from Eintracht, though he won a starter place lately and is harder to buy.

But Felix Passlack is still an amazing option. His price wouldn't go past 3 million. Widmer from Udinese or Souquet from Nice shouldn't cost more than 5 million either. These are quality players, not mediocre right backs. Mediocrity should not be rewarded with new contracts.
Theis salaries? They would settle for PL salary, as much as Ward makes. Some of the PL players win twice as players from Germany or Portugal or France. It's incredible and they don't deserve it

Edited by mattteo (07 Mar 2018 9.39pm)

 

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Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 07 Mar 18 8.09pm Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

Why not keep ward for a season whilst both WB and another replacement bed in.

Why get rid of Ward, until we have two RB proven over time to be better than him. Anyway will let you two go round in circles...

 

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mattteo Flag 07 Mar 18 9.38pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Goldfiinger

Why not keep ward for a season whilst both WB and another replacement bed in.

Why get rid of Ward, until we have two RB proven over time to be better than him. Anyway will let you two go round in circles...

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