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 johnfirewall  19 Dec 17 12.43am |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
What are you on about man? Seriously, some journo with too much time on their hands has scrawled through Facebook and found a slightly controversial opinion, and that shows to you that Labour aren't on the side of the working class? How about we go through your social media and see what you've drunk posted at 3 in the morning 5 years ago... When it's something they should live and breathe it's telling when people want proof they care about the (white) working class.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 19 Dec 17 1.00am |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Really wonder what you would say if it was ..say farage or a up and coming Tory saying such things. Farage is very high profile and established.
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 19 Dec 17 7.26pm |
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Originally posted by johnfirewall
When it's something they should live and breathe it's telling when people want proof they care about the (white) working class. Well other than the fact that Labour took more votes from the poorest in society than the Tories did in 2017, as well as winning seats like Portsmouth, Plymouth and Stoke which, I assume, are the (white) places they need to engage with... If you genuinely think Labour aren't still the party of the working class, look at how the two leaders are greeted in poor areas. Corbyn goes to the Durham Miners' Gala, and attracts the biggest crowds since the 80s. He turns up at a gig in Tranmere and has thousands chanting his name. In contrast, the only time May ever stepped foot in working class land was after Grenfell, and she got hounded out by the locals! Edited by serial thriller (19 Dec 2017 7.27pm)
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 Hrolf The Ganger 19 Dec 17 8.16pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Well other than the fact that Labour took more votes from the poorest in society than the Tories did in 2017, as well as winning seats like Portsmouth, Plymouth and Stoke which, I assume, are the (white) places they need to engage with... If you genuinely think Labour aren't still the party of the working class, look at how the two leaders are greeted in poor areas. Corbyn goes to the Durham Miners' Gala, and attracts the biggest crowds since the 80s. He turns up at a gig in Tranmere and has thousands chanting his name. In contrast, the only time May ever stepped foot in working class land was after Grenfell, and she got hounded out by the locals! Edited by serial thriller (19 Dec 2017 7.27pm) More the party of the terminally gullible.
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| johnfirewall 19 Dec 17 9.27pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Well other than the fact that Labour took more votes from the poorest in society than the Tories did in 2017, as well as winning seats like Portsmouth, Plymouth and Stoke which, I assume, are the (white) places they need to engage with... If you genuinely think Labour aren't still the party of the working class, look at how the two leaders are greeted in poor areas. Corbyn goes to the Durham Miners' Gala, and attracts the biggest crowds since the 80s. He turns up at a gig in Tranmere and has thousands chanting his name. In contrast, the only time May ever stepped foot in working class land was after Grenfell, and she got hounded out by the locals! Edited by serial thriller (19 Dec 2017 7.27pm)
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cryrst  The garden of England 20 Dec 17 10.15am |
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Dec 17 10.46am |
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I don't think there is any doubt that Labour, to be an effective party of the working class, also has to engage with the white working classes; and ironically I think that with Corbyn, you've seen a move towards working class issues, that was lip service. But the working class is about all working class members, irrespective of race, gender, sexuality, religion etc.
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| danny choo choo Hayes 20 Dec 17 6.27pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
What are you on about man? Seriously, some journo with too much time on their hands has scrawled through Facebook and found a slightly controversial opinion, and that shows to you that Labour aren't on the side of the working class? How about we go through your social media and see what you've drunk posted at 3 in the morning 5 years ago... what am i on about? are you on a wind up?
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| danny choo choo Hayes 20 Dec 17 6.30pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I don't think there is any doubt that Labour, to be an effective party of the working class, also has to engage with the white working classes; and ironically I think that with Corbyn, you've seen a move towards working class issues, that was lip service. But the working class is about all working class members, irrespective of race, gender, sexuality, religion etc. yes i agree with you i would actually say Corbyn has always stayed true to he's cause and beliefs and he should not be knocked for that but i just dont like what he is surrounded by.
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 22 Dec 17 12.13am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I don't think there is any doubt that Labour, to be an effective party of the working class, also has to engage with the white working classes; and ironically I think that with Corbyn, you've seen a move towards working class issues, that was lip service. But the working class is about all working class members, irrespective of race, gender, sexuality, religion etc. The problem is that most Labour MPs are highly likely to have Oxbridge backgrounds & an even higher percentage are very unlikely to have had a proper job, most being shoehorned into politics having served as advisers & lobbyists.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 22 Dec 17 3.12am |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
The problem is that most Labour MPs are highly likely to have Oxbridge backgrounds & an even higher percentage are very unlikely to have had a proper job, most being shoehorned into politics having served as advisers & lobbyists. I think thats true, it surprises me how many people haven't had a proper job in their life. And by proper job I mean a job that taxes you in body and soul, and has no end in sight. I remeber my first proper job - shifting 25kg brewery bags of hops from the drop off point to the brewing room. A proper job, against which every other job has been contrasted. It seems a lifetime agp (although its been 28 years - Everything since feels like I haven't had to really work
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| Badger11 Beckenham 22 Dec 17 9.45am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I think thats true, it surprises me how many people haven't had a proper job in their life. And by proper job I mean a job that taxes you in body and soul, and has no end in sight. I remeber my first proper job - shifting 25kg brewery bags of hops from the drop off point to the brewing room. A proper job, against which every other job has been contrasted. It seems a lifetime agp (although its been 28 years - Everything since feels like I haven't had to really work I agree with this. At the end of my working life I stacked shelves in a supermarket. Having spent my career in banking and IT I was shocked at how poor the management were, the bullying of staff and the their lack of flexibility with staff issues e.g. sick child. Bottom line I had a proper job for 30 years but didn't realise how privileged I was. How on earth can MPs understand real life if they come out of university get a job as a party researcher and than bag a safe seat. This is not a party political issue they are all guilty of this. One day I will start a thread about my experiences working for "the best company on the high street" and why that store is floundering.
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