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OhthisbloodyPC 13 Dec 17 8.11am | |
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Let's assess the fans.
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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 13 Dec 17 8.50am | |
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Palace have lost one game in their last eight. That loss was a 1-0 defeat v Spurs at Wembley, where, among several (the majority) of chances, Wilf missed an open goal.
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Tez Epsom 13 Dec 17 8.56am | |
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Originally posted by kev64
Can you get carded for calling someone a troll for absolutely no reason? This is a f***ing discussion forum, just because I have a different opinion to you doesn't give you the right to insult me.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Dec 17 9.09am | |
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Originally posted by RH8Eagle
We obviously didn’t play well tonight but the difference between the sides was confidence we are short of it and Watford knew they could do a job on us. I think most of the players you mention can play better if we continue to build on this run we give ourselves a good chance of getting away from the bottom three. Quite a few teams could run through their squad and say all is not well but my glass stays half full The difference is our team is set up to let the player with the ball do it on his own too much with little or no support and their's and other teams are set up to always have an option available. When we haven't got the result we need we start going for it after 80 mins. Id Iike to see just a bit of full back overlapping of these predictable inside out wide midfielders. This is a big reason why Andros can't build on anything and Cheek is easily kept quiet. And all whilst there's Benteke stood in the box. Crosses 25 yards from the by line are pointless and predictable again. We're predictable and quite easy to defend for 80 mins. Quite a fair thing to say and we won't keep winning CRUCIAL games in a few minutes.
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Tez Epsom 13 Dec 17 9.17am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
The difference is our team is set up to let the player with the ball do it on his own too much with little or no support and their's and other teams are set up to always have an option available. When we haven't got the result we need we start going for it after 80 mins. Id Iike to see just a bit of full back overlapping of these predictable inside out wide midfielders. This is a big reason why Andros can't build on anything and Cheek is easily kept quiet. And all whilst there's Benteke stood in the box. Crosses 25 yards from the by line are pointless and predictable again. We're predictable and quite easy to defend for 80 mins. Quite a fair thing to say and we won't keep winning CRUCIAL games in a few minutes. Hit the nail on the head Rudi. Inverted wingers only works if the full backs overlap and provide width.
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Eaglecoops CR3 13 Dec 17 9.26am | |
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Originally posted by Tez
Hit the nail on the head Rudi. Inverted wingers only works if the full backs overlap and provide width. Who's old enough to remember the inside right and inside left positions, because that is really how we are playing at the moment and by definition, there is no width because that used to be supplied by the wingers under the old 2,3,5 system.
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DutchEagleJohan Vlissingen, Netherlands 13 Dec 17 11.29am | |
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The lack of width was indeed very very obvious yesterday. Townsend is very poor at using space and just goes on dribbles with no chance and as he is lacking a good shot it comes to nothing time after time. For all the criticism of Sako, he actually put a decent cross in within minutes of coming on. Was also disappointed with FTM and his lack of drive forward, not to mention Schlupp on the left who brings absolutely nothing going forward. It's Wilf, Wilf and more Wilf where our attacking treat has to come from. In the end of the day we are out of the bottom three but we certainly did not look good. Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Who's old enough to remember the inside right and inside left positions, because that is really how we are playing at the moment and by definition, there is no width because that used to be supplied by the wingers under the old 2,3,5 system.
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cpj Kent 13 Dec 17 11.32am | |
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A few thoughts... Also, when we get free-kicks in the middle of the pitch, we just take them quickly with a short pass and then usually lose it again. What happened to lumping the ball into the box? Surely more chance of scoring with Benteke, Dann, Tomkins?
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chateauferret 13 Dec 17 11.39am | |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Who's old enough to remember the inside right and inside left positions, because that is really how we are playing at the moment and by definition, there is no width because that used to be supplied by the wingers under the old 2,3,5 system. Yes I used to play centre-forward in it forty years ago But we had lots of little fast wily guys at the front, not a stationary lampost that the wingers had to bounce the ball off into the goal. Full-backs were always clumsy agricultural oaves with turning circles like elephants and we tore them to bits.
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Eaglecoops CR3 13 Dec 17 11.45am | |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
Yes I used to play centre-forward in it forty years ago But we had lots of little fast wily guys at the front, not a stationary lampost that the wingers had to bounce the ball off into the goal. Full-backs were always clumsy agricultural oaves with turning circles like elephants and we tore them to bits. Haha, sort of tells you what sort of players we should be signing then. Liverpool and Man City aren't doing too bad with that "little fast" approach.
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chateauferret 13 Dec 17 12.02pm | |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Haha, sort of tells you what sort of players we should be signing then. Liverpool and Man City aren't doing too bad with that "little fast" approach. The wingers would whack the ball towards goal at 100 mph and the one of the following happened. 1. Goal.
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Eaglecoops CR3 13 Dec 17 12.14pm | |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
The wingers would whack the ball towards goal at 100 mph and the one of the following happened. 1. Goal. I think Silva and Mane would tell you its a little more complicated in the modern game :-)
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