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 alaneagle1  Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 01 Oct 17 11.56am |
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Originally posted by Osvaldo
The answer is simple. We screwed up big time during the transfer window. Going into a new season with one striker was beyond imagination. Now we are after a 35 year old free agent striker who has failed to score for a few years. We are reaping what we've sown and how anyone can say that we will get out of this mess, is beyond me. If there were a ray of light at the end of the tunnel I could be a little less negative. But to sum up our football at this time the words, dreadful, diabolical, disaster........ come to mind!!!
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 01 Oct 17 12.16pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
There is no sentiment in football and if Parish were a player he would have been got rid of ages ago but because he is a significant shareholder he is allowed to retain his privileged position despite all his costly errors as chairman. Someone posted earlier that FDB wasn't a nice bloke but conversely Steve Parish may well be a nice bloke but is that relevant in either case. My own opinion (that I haven't expressed before) is that SP should have told FDB early on that he has to revert to a style of playing that the players were happy with and if a few of those that FDB didn't think were up to it went running to teacher to complain then he should have backed his manager not the whingers. Well I agree with this but then you say I'm making it up that Frank lied in interview by saying 'gradual', but you then say Parish should've stepped in after interview and starting the job that Frank should keep it to what the squad is comfortable with or can deliver, which is in fact, gradual. Do you actually think Parish agreed that Frank would completely change the set-up after he said we'd sign 2 or 3 players when he thought Sam was staying and about £40 mil net to spend? Those 'gradual' and 'results over style' comments were made within 48 hours of him joining on the field of the training ground with the club interviewer. So you either think Frank agreed gradual, sensible, possible changes in interview or in all that time wasting it was never discussed and Parish just left him to it.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 01 Oct 17 12.25pm |
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There's loads of reasons on a BBS thread, Where did it all go wrong'? My main 2 are: 1. Extending and not sacking Pardew soon enough. Extending beggars belief and highlights Parish's recent ineptitude or negligence. A lot of little issues derived from Pardew, his ineptitude and P and P's pally relationship which isn't healthy, and so it proved, which is why they say what they do about family being in business together. 2. As soon as Frank decided 3-4-3, which was probably last season before he knew we had a vacancy whilst he was watching Chelsea on tv. He said something about it just happening to be us this season. If he decided after arriving he's either a fool or just reckless without an ounce of care of the repercussions from his actions.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 01 Oct 17 12.39pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
This rather daft rumour seems to have been started by one forum member who is hoping that if he repeats it enough times (which he has) that it will become the truth. Ask yourself, why would a potential manager deliberately lie at an interview about the style of play that he would adopt as it doesn't make sense Er, because Frank may have gauged that either it needed something steady, going by last season, or that is how it may have developed in conversation. If you haven't noticed, Frank wasn't working and there were only 2 clubs looking for managers and Pellegrino was the man of the moment, and he had just played a successful season with careful, containing football. If you need a job, sometimes people adjust to, or mirror the interviewer and company. The mistake Frank made was not taking his time and doing it once much of the dross had gone after he got a few performances when needed out of them. The mistake Parish made was being on holiday so much when he should've been around more. And this laughable cr&p about in today's world that Skype would suffice. When a region or branch or company or a country HQ of a multinational has issues, they send a big rep in to get a response. They don't use Skype when it's looking dodgy, or tweet videos of rapping karaoke or water boarding. That's why I'm going to be silent very soon at games as opposed to Parish's favourite HF who show unconditional support because they're putting up with his ineptitude or negligence. But even they won't if it there's more.
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| davehuggins 01 Oct 17 12.53pm |
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Looks to me we all pretty much agree upper management have to take the majority of the blame for this mess. So, at this time of the season what in our opinion can be done to rescue the situation and repair this embarrassment.
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| Croydonlad sydenham 01 Oct 17 4.54pm |
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Originally posted by Vaibow
FDB did nothing wrong, he was hired but not left to do his job, he had targets, they were not met. He wasn't a likeable figure, fair enough - but why didn't they realise this in the hire process. Ofcourse, in hindsight, he was the wrong choice - but he should't have been sacked after Burnley - that wasn't a sackable offence. He should have been given until xmas, but, all the turmoil in the club, would that have been worse? Fact is, parish needs to step aside. He hires and fires way too much, he is the problem. He did everything wrong , absolutely everything , you DO NOT get a side to play the way he wanted that are used to playing basic football .
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| NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 01 Oct 17 5.13pm |
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Originally posted by Croydonlad
He did everything wrong , absolutely everything , you DO NOT get a side to play the way he wanted that are used to playing basic football . We played the ' Palace way ' at Burnley. 23 attempts on goal and missed some absolute sitters. FDB was a bad appointment but I think the game that really may have robbed the players of confidence was Southampton. Since then we have lost 0-5 and 0-4 under Hodgson. The Hodgson that was bemoaning the lack of strikers at the club in his post match comments. Which brings us back to the pre season planning and activity in the transfer market....
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| Croydonlad sydenham 01 Oct 17 5.38pm |
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Originally posted by oldstand
Big Sam appears to avoid any criticism, his walk out has contributed to this mess. Bought players to get us over the line, not players to take us forward. Nonsense !! Sakho was only available on loan , but was a player for the future as was Luka and VA , Schlupp agreed is borderline , but you cant blame Sam for anything !!!
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| Croydonlad sydenham 01 Oct 17 5.40pm |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
We played the ' Palace way ' at Burnley. 23 attempts on goal and missed some absolute sitters. FDB was a bad appointment but I think the game that really may have robbed the players of confidence was Southampton. Since then we have lost 0-5 and 0-4 under Hodgson. The Hodgson that was bemoaning the lack of strikers at the club in his post match comments. Which brings us back to the pre season planning and activity in the transfer market.... No sir
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Originally posted by Croydonlad
Nonsense !! Sakho was only available on loan , but was a player for the future as was Luka and VA , Schlupp agreed is borderline , but you cant blame Sam for anything !!! You know zero. Liverpool only wanted to sell Sakho last January and the asking price was just 21m. We only managed to get him on loan at the time because no one wanted to pay that for a player that had been out so long. So Liverpool reluctantly agreed to loan him and hoped he would do well and boost his value for a summer sale. Which he did.
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| slubglurge welling 01 Oct 17 6.30pm |
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Every club our size who think they have established themselves are always just one nad decision away from disaster and we made that decision when we failed to appoint Dyche and now we will pay the consequences
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| Midlands Eagle 01 Oct 17 6.41pm |
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Originally posted by slubglurge
Every club our size who think they have established themselves are always just one bad decision away from disaster and we made that decision when we failed to appoint Dyche and now we will pay the consequences Unfortunately we made considerably more than one bad decision
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