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hedgehog50  Croydon 01 Oct 17 4.30pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Is it? I am not so sure. The vast majority of Spain would want the region to remain part of the country if there were a countrywide referendum on the issue. Surely a true democratic vote would be for all Spanish citizens to have a say? Do you have the same view for Scotland voting on independence?
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 Kermit8  Hevon 01 Oct 17 4.34pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Do you have the same view for Scotland voting on independence? Scotland is already officially a worldwide recognised country and was voting on whether to remain in a union. Catalonia is not a country. End of. Not comparable.
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corkery  Cork City 01 Oct 17 4.39pm |
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No, Scotland is not a worldwide recognised country. No country in the world recognises Scotland as a country.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 01 Oct 17 4.39pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Scotland is already officially a worldwide recognised country and was voting on whether to remain in a union. Catalonia is not a country. End of. Not comparable. The UK is already officially a worldwide recognised state. Edited by hedgehog50 (01 Oct 2017 4.39pm)
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| Kermit8 Hevon 01 Oct 17 4.40pm |
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Originally posted by corkery
No, Scotland is not a worldwide recognised country. No country in the world recognises Scotland as a country. It is. it is just not an independent one.
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| Stirlingsays 01 Oct 17 4.41pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Scotland is already officially a worldwide recognised country and was voting on whether to remain in a union. Catalonia is not a country. End of. Not comparable. So if the region called Scotland wasn't a country and was apart of England....You would be alright with it not being allowed to have a vote then to become Scotland?
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| Kermit8 Hevon 01 Oct 17 4.46pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
So if the region called Scotland wasn't a country and was apart of England....You would be alright with it not being allowed to have a vote then to become Scotland? What do you think would be the correct way to proceed democratically if that were the case?
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| corkery Cork City 01 Oct 17 4.51pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
What do you think would be the correct way to proceed democratically if that were the case? Self determination. Allow people to have their say, yes or no.
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| .TUX. 01 Oct 17 5.00pm |
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Update: The number of people injured in clashes between pro-independence voters and riot police dispatched to the restive region by the government in Madrid has climbed to 337, including at least 11 police officers
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| Kermit8 Hevon 01 Oct 17 5.02pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Update: The number of people injured in clashes between pro-independence voters and riot police dispatched to the restive region by the government in Madrid has climbed to 337, including at least 11 police officers 460 now. My sis is in Barcelona today too. This will be a visit she won't forget.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 01 Oct 17 5.11pm |
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| rob1969 Banstead Surrey 01 Oct 17 5.19pm |
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The vote may be illegal according to the Spanish constitution so any result will be purely a indication of people wishes and in no way binding or having any validity. Therefore why not let them go ahead and just ignore the outcome. Using force to try to prevent the vote seems totally pointless and just rings of Spain of 40 + years ago. Really unbelievable!
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