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 Willo  South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Sep 17 11.25am |
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Originally posted by slubglurge
Roy has a great opportunity on Tue to give TFM a run out at RB because Ward need replacing and quick TFM is a centre-half by trade in terms of his youth career but I believe Man Utd used him at right-back in the first team.
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| gerry theagle newbury 17 Sep 17 11.37am |
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Off topic slightly but Schlupps total lack of positional sense was the main cause of their goal yesterday.All their dangerous attacks came from the right wing not the left where Redmond,a pretty good winger wasn't getting much joy against JW.
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Welsh Eagle  17 Sep 17 11.58am |
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Ward used to be 1 of my favourite players but over the past 2 years he has been poor a bit like Puncheon & both shouldn't be in the team anymore. Teams target him which I can totally understand because he is a weak link in our team, however so is left back position even though we spent over £20m in that area in Jan! Ward is a good old fashioned right back but in the modern game he isn't quick enough & his distribution is very poor especially his crossing.These days a full back needs to be like a winger who can defend but he can't dribble,lacks pace & his crossing is very poor. After Woy has drilled the defence a bit like Fat Sam did & Sahko is fit we will be far more solid at the back but it won't happen over night & I think it will take at least a month to see the benefits. I really hope Woy will replace Ward with TMF in the near future because he has more of the attributes needed to be a modern day fullback.
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| matthau South Croydon 17 Sep 17 12.03pm |
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Originally posted by radsyrendot
2 years ago people calling him as England's RB problems Three years ago we said.. Or Pardew said.. Puncheon for England. They've both lost it. Part and parcel of the game. Manager needs to become aware asap
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Texas Eagle  San Antonio, Texas (via Adelaide) 17 Sep 17 11.16pm |
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Originally posted by dicky boy
Yeah think the poor bloke has had his time.......sorry Wardy,but time for you to take a back seat for awhile,so lets get Sakho fit and have a back four of.... ..Fose-Mensah....Sakho (c)....Tomkins....PVA.. with a midfield three of .................Luka................ And if we're playing away i think put Jairo in alongside Luka and drop Cabaye to the bench........ Totally agree. Although I'd give the captaincy to Luka or Wilf. I'd also drop Punch, another liability! I hope the club cleans out the deadwood in the January window. Just hope Roy the same foresight as we do.
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thai-eagle  chiang mai 18 Sep 17 4.17am |
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Originally posted by Welsh Eagle
Ward used to be 1 of my favourite players but over the past 2 years he has been poor a bit like Puncheon & both shouldn't be in the team anymore. Teams target him which I can totally understand because he is a weak link in our team, however so is left back position even though we spent over £20m in that area in Jan! Ward is a good old fashioned right back but in the modern game he isn't quick enough & his distribution is very poor especially his crossing.These days a full back needs to be like a winger who can defend but he can't dribble,lacks pace & his crossing is very poor. After Woy has drilled the defence a bit like Fat Sam did & Sahko is fit we will be far more solid at the back but it won't happen over night & I think it will take at least a month to see the benefits. I really hope Woy will replace Ward with TMF in the near future because he has more of the attributes needed to be a modern day fullback.
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| michaelpearce grays 18 Sep 17 9.20am |
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i bet if i sat there watching one player i could find a million faults, each player in our team has major faults but we seem to be looking at 1 position, across the back we have looked uncomfortable even when sam was in charge as we lost silly games under him and alot was LB problems which hasnt gone away either it wasnt JW who stands there ball watching when crosses comes in from both sides so give the guy a break
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| balfmalark 18 Sep 17 9.52am |
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
Him and Schlupp both shocking today. Schlupp cant seem to string two performances together. Everytime he has a good game he follows it up with a mare and PvA comes in to do the exact same. Souare isnt much difference. Between the three of them we can scrape together an LB
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| alaneagle1 Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 18 Sep 17 9.57am |
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Originally posted by gerry theagle
Off topic slightly but Schlupps total lack of positional sense was the main cause of their goal yesterday.All their dangerous attacks came from the right wing not the left where Redmond,a pretty good winger wasn't getting much joy against JW. Because Puncheon was not helping Schlupp,he had two players attacking him.
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DutchEagleJohan  Vlissingen, Netherlands 18 Sep 17 9.59am |
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Name me one other PL team where he would start ahead of their current RB......... Originally posted by Goal Machine
I don't get the anti Joel Ward brigade. Been a steady and reliable player for us for years and continues to be. Very experienced defender and rarely puts a foot wrong. He's been played out of position often at LB in the past and under FDB at RWB, you can't blame someone for not performing to their best in an unfamiliar position - that's the managers fault for putting him there. TFM is clearly more of a CB than an RB which is why he is playing at CB. I'm sure a recently read that no other outfield player played more minutes than Ward last season in the Premier League- that stat speaks for itself. Ward will continue to play at RB under Hodgson because he's our best player there. All our previous managers have also agreed. There are far bigger problems with our squad than this.
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| npn Crowborough 18 Sep 17 10.02am |
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I thought both fullbacks were terrible on Saturday - Ward was largely in the right place doing the wrong thing, and Schlupp seemed to have no positional awareness whatsoever (almost like he doesn't know how to play left back). Midfield seemed to sit far too deep and just let Southampton have the ball - whether that was a tactical decision by Roy or total lack of confidence I don't know
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| Eaglecoops CR3 18 Sep 17 10.43am |
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This is the premier league ffs, not some mickey mouse european country 3rd division league. All players in this league should be positionally aware, be able to read the game, be able to pass, to cross and to have a bit of pace. If you don't then you should not be in this league...simples. PS: I am afraid that on that selection basis we have quite a few that should not be in this league.
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