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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 11 Sep 17 8.15pm

Originally posted by Willo

People who don't know all the facts are just looking at the fact that FDB was removed of his duties after 4 games.

I'm not going to get drawn into specifics but at the end of the day no manager gets shown the door after 4 games on results alone.

They were weighing up their options before a result had even been registered.

 


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Tom R Flag Huddersfield 11 Sep 17 8.24pm Send a Private Message to Tom R Add Tom R as a friend

Perhaps the truth is that Parish wanted FdB and the Americans wanted Dyche. After all Parish appointed Burley (for "flowing football", had the argument with Freedman when the football was not attacking enough, appointed Pardew for a more attacking style.
It is believed that the Americans appointed Allardyce and have now got rid of de Boer.
If we want a more solid defensive based style, as too many of our players aren't capable of making a 10 yard pass, perhaps the Americans should take the lead and not Parish!

 

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Painter Flag Croydon 11 Sep 17 8.30pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Tom R

Perhaps the truth is that Parish wanted FdB and the Americans wanted Dyche. After all Parish appointed Burley (for "flowing football", had the argument with Freedman when the football was not attacking enough, appointed Pardew for a more attacking style.
It is believed that the Americans appointed Allardyce and have now got rid of de Boer.
If we want a more solid defensive based style, as too many of our players aren't capable of making a 10 yard pass, perhaps the Americans should take the lead and not Parish!

The Yanks know nothing about football, they are purely here for financial gain, like most foreign investors.
FDB just didn't inspire confidence with the players or staff. The results weren't the main reason he went, Sam didn't have a great start, but the players bought into his methods.

 

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Eagleder1 Flag 11 Sep 17 8.32pm Send a Private Message to Eagleder1 Add Eagleder1 as a friend

Oh get real! Conspiracy claims now. What possible benefit could Parish get from being relegated which is where we are heading. Four games in forget the loses but no goals scored against 3 teams we would be looking to seriously compete with. Now 3 games looming we will struggle to get anything from. Potentially 0 points from 8 games, that's relegation stuff and only 1 striker in the 24 uck!!!

 

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Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 11 Sep 17 9.01pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Really pleased he's gone.

Didn't really like the appointment but was encouraged by his initial noises about evolution and results over style.

Concerns grew after we created so few chances in the games in Hong Kong and the Huddersfield game made it clear he was trying to prove something and had talked his way into the job under false pretences. FFS two nineteen year olds at centre back.

I don't think one fan or pundit being asked to pick our team yesterday would have started Lee.

 

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Palace 1979 Flag Surrey 11 Sep 17 9.04pm Send a Private Message to Palace 1979 Add Palace 1979 as a friend

There are always 2 sides to every story, and when it comes to football I would not believe either!

The whole sport is corrupt to the core so take any news with a pinch of salt!

I think 2 things have come from this :

1) Parish will not employ another foreign manager for many years

2) Parish needs to remember he is the chairman and let the manager deal with footballing matters as this is not the first time we have read about his constant interfering.

That's it, I am fed up and tired of this...even Brighton are laughing at us now!!

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 11 Sep 17 9.04pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

If true that the likes of Delaney, Kelly, Lee and Ward have played some part in this then it's even worse because frankly 3 of them shouldn't even be at the club anymore. What a sorry mess.

I agree this happens at every club. Out of favour players don't like the new manager. But it's the Joel Ward one which could have been the one the players didn't take well to. He's played every game for ages, decides he's not up to wing back, which is true, but the squad isn't up to 3-4-3. So a popular person gets scrapped and treated badly for no good reason. Similarities with Kelly being isolated and allegedly made to train with the youngsters.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 11 Sep 17 9.06pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

Really pleased he's gone.

Didn't really like the appointment but was encouraged by his initial noises about evolution and results over style.

Concerns grew after we created so few chances in the games in Hong Kong and the Huddersfield game made it clear he was trying to prove something and had talked his way into the job under false pretences. FFS two nineteen year olds at centre back.

I don't think one fan or pundit being asked to pick our team yesterday would have started Lee.

Tbf Lee played well v Swansea. It's being on the left which was wrong IMO.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Sep 17 9.10pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

Really pleased he's gone.

Didn't really like the appointment but was encouraged by his initial noises about evolution and results over style.

Concerns grew after we created so few chances in the games in Hong Kong and the Huddersfield game made it clear he was trying to prove something and had talked his way into the job under false pretences. FFS two nineteen year olds at centre back.

I don't think one fan or pundit being asked to pick our team yesterday would have started Lee.

I think you are right.
Instead of Lee perhaps a better bet might have been PVA or Schlupp.

 

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leejaneagles Flag 11 Sep 17 9.13pm Send a Private Message to leejaneagles Add leejaneagles as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Tbf Lee played well v Swansea. It's being on the left which was wrong IMO.

A lot of people want black and white on whether it's Parish's fault or De Boer's fault but I think the Lee starting against Burnley situation proves there are definitely shades of grey.

Should FDB have started Lee? No probably not. Should he be in a position where he's so light on players that he can even consider Lee? Definitely not!

The reason Big Sam struggled despite being clearly a great manager and a great fit was because you can only do so much with the squad we have and Parish must know this by now.

I actually do think a new 'safe-hands' manager is the correct approach. I think they'll play 4-5-1, keep things tight, keep things simple. That bit was down to De Boer changing too much too quickly.

But if Benteke gets injured, whether it's Hodgson, Allardyce or Mourinho, we don't have anyone to play as striker and score us goals. We don't even have a Frazier Campbell to play as striker and NOT score us goals.

Lee has always given his all and is clearly not good enough. FDB had Zaha out and a choice of Lee or kids. He went with Lee and he made a massive cock-up. But again, Lee should never have been an option to begin with if the board invested properly.

 

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Painter Flag Croydon 11 Sep 17 9.14pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I think you are right.
Instead of Lee perhaps a better bet might have been PVA or Schlupp.

I doubt if even you, could of banged the final nail in FDBs tenure, as Lee did.

 

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Flash Flag Lampeter 11 Sep 17 10.35pm

Originally posted by leejaneagles

A lot of people want black and white on whether it's Parish's fault or De Boer's fault but I think the Lee starting against Burnley situation proves there are definitely shades of grey.

Should FDB have started Lee? No probably not. Should he be in a position where he's so light on players that he can even consider Lee? Definitely not!

The reason Big Sam struggled despite being clearly a great manager and a great fit was because you can only do so much with the squad we have and Parish must know this by now.

I actually do think a new 'safe-hands' manager is the correct approach. I think they'll play 4-5-1, keep things tight, keep things simple. That bit was down to De Boer changing too much too quickly.

But if Benteke gets injured, whether it's Hodgson, Allardyce or Mourinho, we don't have anyone to play as striker and score us goals. We don't even have a Frazier Campbell to play as striker and NOT score us goals.

Lee has always given his all and is clearly not good enough. FDB had Zaha out and a choice of Lee or kids. He went with Lee and he made a massive cock-up. But again, Lee should never have been an option to begin with if the board invested properly.

Agree with most of this, but there was an option other than Lee. Surely the better option would have been to play van Aanholt at LB with Schlupp on the left of midfield. Lee didn't just make one awful mistake, he looked out of his depth.

 

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