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Dan89 Se25 26 Aug 17 9.10pm
Originally posted by glazedallover Oh right , so we have only had an identity since 2011. Bollox. How did we get to the game today ferry? Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football
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Se25 26 Aug 17 9.10pm

Originally posted by glazedallover

Oh right , so we have only had an identity since 2011. Bollox.

How did we get to the game today ferry?

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Chestereagles Chester 26 Aug 17 9.25pm
What other chairman has kept us in the top flight for this long? Trick question? What other owner saved us from going under? I know this seems to wind up other posters for some reason I don't fully understand. If you want a proper assessment of our identity it probably (until recent times) is a struggling league two (translation into modern football - championship side who occasionally outperform their fan base) Team of the eighties never made it. Ron Noades never took us under by over investing but the sold us. We have never, ever enjoyed a period of top flight football for so long. And every season we have been financially secure. But every season has been a battle to stay here. Yes it doesn't seem to be working after three whole games but the very definition of madness is continually doing the same thing and hoping that something different happens. Can we at least wait until the transfrer window is closed and Frank has had the eight games it took Big Sam to get going. And by the way he didn't finish that convincingly either. I don't want to see us fail but if you are talking "identity" then at least we are seeing an introduction of our accedemy products. Let's all take a deep breath and remember how long it took Big Sam....
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Chester 26 Aug 17 9.25pm

What other chairman has kept us in the top flight for this long?
Trick question?
What other owner saved us from going under?
I know this seems to wind up other posters for some reason I don't fully understand.
If you want a proper assessment of our identity it probably (until recent times) is a struggling league two (translation into modern football - championship side who occasionally outperform their fan base)
Team of the eighties never made it.
Ron Noades never took us under by over investing but the sold us.
We have never, ever enjoyed a period of top flight football for so long.
And every season we have been financially secure.
But every season has been a battle to stay here.
Yes it doesn't seem to be working after three whole games but the very definition of madness is continually doing the same thing and hoping that something different happens.
Can we at least wait until the transfrer window is closed and Frank has had the eight games it took Big Sam to get going.
And by the way he didn't finish that convincingly either.
I don't want to see us fail but if you are talking "identity" then at least we are seeing an introduction of our accedemy products.
Let's all take a deep breath and remember how long it took Big Sam....

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Dan89 Se25 26 Aug 17 9.30pm
Originally posted by Chestereagles What other chairman has kept us in the top flight for this long? Trick question? What other owner saved us from going under? I know this seems to wind up other posters for some reason I don't fully understand. If you want a proper assessment of our identity it probably (until recent times) is a struggling league two (translation into modern football - championship side who occasionally outperform their fan base) Team of the eighties never made it. Ron Noades never took us under by over investing but the sold us. We have never, ever enjoyed a period of top flight football for so long. And every season we have been financially secure. But every season has been a battle to stay here. Yes it doesn't seem to be working after three whole games but the very definition of madness is continually doing the same thing and hoping that something different happens. Can we at least wait until the transfrer window is closed and Frank has had the eight games it took Big Sam to get going. And by the way he didn't finish that convincingly either. I don't want to see us fail but if you are talking "identity" then at least we are seeing an introduction of our accedemy products. Let's all take a deep breath and remember how long it took Big Sam.... There always one. Look how far we come. Get real buddy. Most appointments have been a disaster. Too many refuse to blame parish. Never do wrong. Well he see it didn't work with an attacking style in pardew sacked him , appointed a firefighter. Then takes 6 weeks to appoint a manager that similar style but less effective style to pardew. No blame for parish. Really. Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football
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Se25 26 Aug 17 9.30pm

Originally posted by Chestereagles

There always one. Look how far we come. Get real buddy. Most appointments have been a disaster. Too many refuse to blame parish. Never do wrong. Well he see it didn't work with an attacking style in pardew sacked him , appointed a firefighter. Then takes 6 weeks to appoint a manager that similar style but less effective style to pardew. No blame for parish. Really.

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VinceHilaire London 26 Aug 17 9.34pm
I do sometimes wonder....why always Crystal Palace???
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London 26 Aug 17 9.34pm

I do sometimes wonder....why always Crystal Palace???

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Dangermouse Hastings 26 Aug 17 9.36pm
Put your money in and let's see all you quitters have a go. Jesus the Palace quit gene is in full effect right now. Whatever system you play cannot legislate for Kelly giving away two goals. That's Life And as funny as it may seem Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream. KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!
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Hastings 26 Aug 17 9.36pm

Put your money in and let's see all you quitters have a go. Jesus the Palace quit gene is in full effect right now.
Whatever system you play cannot legislate for Kelly giving away two goals.

That's Life
And as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream.
KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!

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Kermit8 Hevon 26 Aug 17 9.37pm
Parish is stale and is holding us back now. Think we need some new blood and a fresh direction at the top. He could still be Chairman but not a hands-on one. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 26 Aug 17 9.37pm

Parish is stale and is holding us back now. Think we need some new blood and a fresh direction at the top. He could still be Chairman but not a hands-on one.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Chestereagles Chester 26 Aug 17 9.38pm
I beg to differ. We have come so far under the current board and we are only three games in. Yes it looks bad. But we struggled to get going under Sam and it all looked terrifying then. Do we remember the articles asking where the hell the Big Sam bounce was? I can remember plenty of times we have looked this hopeless. But I hope that better times are ahead. But I might easily be wrong. I was optimistic about Holloway (Tbf he took us up albeit built on Dougie's work)
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Chester 26 Aug 17 9.38pm

I beg to differ. We have come so far under the current board and we are only three games in.
Yes it looks bad. But we struggled to get going under Sam and it all looked terrifying then.
Do we remember the articles asking where the hell the Big Sam bounce was?
I can remember plenty of times we have looked this hopeless. But I hope that better times are ahead. But I might easily be wrong. I was optimistic about Holloway (Tbf he took us up albeit built on Dougie's work)

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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 26 Aug 17 9.38pm
Originally posted by KB Wayne Hennessy seems to be adapting ok yeah he's still hopeless!
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The garden of England.(not really) 26 Aug 17 9.38pm

Originally posted by KB

Wayne Hennessy seems to be adapting ok

yeah he's still hopeless!

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Painter Croydon 26 Aug 17 9.38pm
Originally posted by Dan89 Cast your minds back when last December, when big Sam was appointed and the words that Steve parish used was the player need a system their comfortable in and it's time to turn back the dial. My question is did he see Dann, Kelly and others struggle to adapt to a possession based game under pardew. Our DNA has always been hard to beat, good counter attacking side. When you appoint a manager that been schooled in the academy of Ajax and Barcelona, what style did you think we are gonna play. Unless there's a considerable budget, should appoint a 40 pts manager and not gamble with our prem status. Is parish to blame for our lack of identity? We haven't lost our identity at all, in the 50 odd years I have been supporting, its always the same. We climb to the summit, only to self implode and fall back down. Its nothing different now, maybe you haven't been supporting long and only known the highs, possibly the worst was being team of the 80s, then end up with bloody Mullery in charge. No point blaming Parish its in our DNA.
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Croydon 26 Aug 17 9.38pm

Originally posted by Dan89

Cast your minds back when last December, when big Sam was appointed and the words that Steve parish used was the player need a system their comfortable in and it's time to turn back the dial. My question is did he see Dann, Kelly and others struggle to adapt to a possession based game under pardew. Our DNA has always been hard to beat, good counter attacking side. When you appoint a manager that been schooled in the academy of Ajax and Barcelona, what style did you think we are gonna play. Unless there's a considerable budget, should appoint a 40 pts manager and not gamble with our prem status.

Is parish to blame for our lack of identity?

We haven't lost our identity at all, in the 50 odd years I have been supporting, its always the same. We climb to the summit, only to self implode and fall back down.
Its nothing different now, maybe you haven't been supporting long and only known the highs, possibly the worst was being team of the 80s, then end up with bloody Mullery in charge.
No point blaming Parish its in our DNA.

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Dan89 Se25 26 Aug 17 9.39pm
Originally posted by Dangermouse Put your money in and let's see all you quitters have a go. Jesus the Palace quit gene is in full effect right now. Whatever system you play cannot legislate for Kelly giving away two goals. Adding so much to the debate there. Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football
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Se25 26 Aug 17 9.39pm

Originally posted by Dangermouse

Put your money in and let's see all you quitters have a go. Jesus the Palace quit gene is in full effect right now.
Whatever system you play cannot legislate for Kelly giving away two goals.

Adding so much to the debate there.

Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football

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andyeagle 26 Aug 17 9.40pm
The buck stops with the manager and Kelly should not be anywhere near the first team
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26 Aug 17 9.40pm

The buck stops with the manager and Kelly should not be anywhere near the first team

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Chestereagles Chester 26 Aug 17 9.59pm
In reply to painter I would say we aren't being true to our identity as we have stayed up since 2013. That's so not Palace!. Although the merrygoround of losing successful managers just as we seem to be getting it right feels spot on. Sadly. I don't blame anything other than this is who we are. I want us to be better - but come on a capacity of less than 25 000, we are a small club; albeit with a big heart. Ok we haven't hit the heights of '90 - 91 but we went down two seasons later. The solution isn't sacking someone who has barely got going. Maybe Frank will fail. It does look grim. But the ginger one might also have failed. Assuming that following the style that only just kept us up and failed in the last few games is a bit grass is always greener
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Chester 26 Aug 17 9.59pm

In reply to painter I would say we aren't being true to our identity as we have stayed up since 2013. That's so not Palace!.
Although the merrygoround of losing successful managers just as we seem to be getting it right feels spot on. Sadly.
I don't blame anything other than this is who we are. I want us to be better - but come on a capacity of less than 25 000, we are a small club; albeit with a big heart.
Ok we haven't hit the heights of '90 - 91 but we went down two seasons later.
The solution isn't sacking someone who has barely got going.
Maybe Frank will fail. It does look grim. But the ginger one might also have failed. Assuming that following the style that only just kept us up and failed in the last few games is a bit grass is always greener

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