This page is no longer updated, and is the old forum. For new topics visit the New HOL forum.
Important to Frank
Register | Edit Profile | Subscriptions | Forum Rules | Log In
 Willo  South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Aug 17 1.12pm |
  |
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Painter
I agree the posts this week have been boarding hysterical in panic. It appears that most supporters expect us to beat all but the top 6-7 teams, it has never been the case and never will be. De Boer is trying to change the playing style, which has to be admired, as the old system didn't work as we were found out by teams. Change takes a time and lessons will be learnt on the way. If we are to progress as a team, we had to change our style. Give him sometime to settle things down, it's a long season. Just some 'Growing pains'. Edited by Willo (16 Aug 2017 1.12pm)
|
|
 Alert a moderator to this post |
  |
| bexleydave Barnehurst 16 Aug 17 1.33pm |
 |
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Painter
I agree the posts this week have been boarding hysterical in panic. It appears that most supporters expect us to beat all but the top 6-7 teams, it has never been the case and never will be. De Boer is trying to change the playing style, which has to be admired, as the old system didn't work as we were found out by teams. Change takes a time and lessons will be learnt on the way. If we are to progress as a team, we had to change our style. Give him sometime to settle things down, it's a long season. Yeah, they thought the same at Charlton, when they got rid of Curbishley. That's gone well hasn't it? The time we needed a change of style was in 2016, when Pardew had us in the last "transition", and we got it with Allardyce who turned us from nailed on certainties for relegation to a team that could beat Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool and finish 14th. I'll tell you what "found out" is; on Saturday every team in the PL found out we're the easiest six points they're going to get this season. Edited by bexleydave (16 Aug 2017 1.35pm)
Bexley Dave Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing! "The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum) |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Mstrobez 16 Aug 17 1.46pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by bexleydave
Yeah, they thought the same at Charlton, when they got rid of Curbishley. That's gone well hasn't it? The time we needed a change of style was in 2016, when Pardew had us in the last "transition", and we got it with Allardyce who turned us from nailed on certainties for relegation to a team that could beat Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool and finish 14th. I'll tell you what "found out" is; on Saturday every team in the PL found out we're the easiest six points they're going to get this season. Edited by bexleydave (16 Aug 2017 1.35pm) I don't understand why people keep comparing Frank and Pardew. Pardew was backed by the fans for a long time, we really got behind him and there were some still defending him when he was sacked. Their styles are 2 completely different types of football but to this day I'd still struggle hugely with exactly what the nonsense served up by Pardew was. This whole transition stuff with him generally was perceived as bollox because I think many people failed to ever see it. What is clear with Frank is that this clearly is a transition. As I keep saying, it may well prove disastrous, it may be a stroke of genius but it is quite obviously a big transition and the outcome of it will not be known yet. Comparing the situation with a manager who overstayed his welcome disgustingly and would've been sacked by every single other premier league club before he was sacked here is like chalk and cheese. What Painter is alluding to is the nature of this reaction. It was one game, God forbid we lose against Liverpool on the weekend which we should know we easily can. It'll be Armageddon on here. A real toxic and divisive atmosphere amongst palace fans this season. A shame to see
We're the Arthur over ere! |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| eagleheath Burgess Hill 16 Aug 17 2.00pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Well said Mstrobez. Spot on.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Dan89 Se25 16 Aug 17 2.02pm |
|
|---|---|
|
According to telegraph Sean dyche turned palace down
Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Aug 17 2.03pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Mstrobez
I don't understand why people keep comparing Frank and Pardew. Pardew was backed by the fans for a long time, we really got behind him and there were some still defending him when he was sacked. Their styles are 2 completely different types of football but to this day I'd still struggle hugely with exactly what the nonsense served up by Pardew was. This whole transition stuff with him generally was perceived as bollox because I think many people failed to ever see it. What is clear with Frank is that this clearly is a transition. As I keep saying, it may well prove disastrous, it may be a stroke of genius but it is quite obviously a big transition and the outcome of it will not be known yet. Comparing the situation with a manager who overstayed his welcome disgustingly and would've been sacked by every single other premier league club before he was sacked here is like chalk and cheese. What Painter is alluding to is the nature of this reaction. It was one game, God forbid we lose against Liverpool on the weekend which we should know we easily can. It'll be Armageddon on here. A real toxic and divisive atmosphere amongst palace fans this season. A shame to see
Tony Cascarino doesn't think he will last long.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Nobbybm Dartford 16 Aug 17 2.35pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Willo
Tony Cascarino doesn't think he will last long. The last four words in that sentence are unnecessary.
Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five! |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Nobbybm Dartford 16 Aug 17 2.38pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by eagleheath
Well said Mstrobez. Spot on. Agreed.
Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five! |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| dreamwaverider London 16 Aug 17 2.46pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Willo
I general I agree with these sentiments. I did feel that someone like Dyche was a better fit for our club and as well as mentioning his name to a few people outside of HOL also mentioned Simon Grayson. Like you, I am giving it time ! How much time you giving it before what? Edited by Willo (16 Aug 2017 11.36am)
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Aray South London 16 Aug 17 2.48pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Mstrobez
I don't understand why people keep comparing Frank and Pardew. Pardew was backed by the fans for a long time, we really got behind him and there were some still defending him when he was sacked. Their styles are 2 completely different types of football but to this day I'd still struggle hugely with exactly what the nonsense served up by Pardew was. This whole transition stuff with him generally was perceived as bollox because I think many people failed to ever see it. What is clear with Frank is that this clearly is a transition. As I keep saying, it may well prove disastrous, it may be a stroke of genius but it is quite obviously a big transition and the outcome of it will not be known yet. Comparing the situation with a manager who overstayed his welcome disgustingly and would've been sacked by every single other premier league club before he was sacked here is like chalk and cheese. What Painter is alluding to is the nature of this reaction. It was one game, God forbid we lose against Liverpool on the weekend which we should know we easily can. It'll be Armageddon on here. A real toxic and divisive atmosphere amongst palace fans this season. A shame to see Edited by Mstrobez (16 Aug 2017 1.53pm) yes - well said Mstrobez. a lot of reactionary, reductive thinking on here. no one wanted or expected Big Sam to go - he did - it was his choice. we need to give the new manager our vocal support and get behind the team. but i do admit, it wasn't easy to do that on saturday...
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| m/k mick milton keynes 16 Aug 17 3.00pm |
|
|---|---|
|
To put two 19 years olds , who have never played a competitive game together into a back three, which weve never tried in a competitive game before is stupid, however there were some good things to take from the game, RLC and hopefully he will never play ward as a wing back again, hes fine as a back four player, as for tactical change townsend for luka, it was forced on hom, luka was injured,
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Aug 17 3.11pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Nobbybm
The last four words in that sentence are unnecessary. That's being rather unkind to Tony Cascarino.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
Login / RegisterNew users
Registration is now on our new message board
Existing users
To login with your existing username you will need to convert your account over to the new message board.
Sponsors
All images and text on this site are copyright © 1999-2024 The Holmesdale Online, unless otherwise stated.
Web Design by Guntrisoft Ltd.