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 Hudsoneagle  11 Aug 17 11.48am |
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Originally posted by Dan89
If we get a few of our younger players integrated then could be a plus like Lokilo or wan-bisakka . Then could be a positive, but think I'd rather get Chambers on loan with that fee already set and option to buy would be better than fosu-mensah. If both are successful and play a huge part in this season. Next summer we're having these problems to solve, let alone more that will arise. I do like the fact we are targeting young players, but I'd rather get them permanently. With Man City spending maybe we can nab maffeo or Patrick Roberts. So we shouldn't loan players but we should loan Chambers? lol A player who was for sale at 7m last year and is now valued at 20m after Borough got relegated and would still cost 20-30m next summer if we loaned him and he played ok...you might as well class him as a player we couldn't sign. I would avoid this player.
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| Dan89 Se25 11 Aug 17 11.49am |
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Originally posted by Hudsoneagle
Are you an idiot? If we don't have the money to buy permanent replacements and we don't have the right quality available in the youth setup then what would your alternative suggestion be? Because it sounds as if you don't have a solution and that you are just moaning for the sakes of it. If you have enough money to buy 3 players but you need maybe 5 or 6 players if you are going to succeed then what is the solution? Because have a different opinion, we sell some big earners such as dann, Cabaye to raise funds to strengthen the squad bringing in younger additions. You say we have 100m next summer but if we in trouble in January, the owners will put their hands in their pockets to bail us out. We will also have other areas where we need to strength next summer including Rcb and cm spots.
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| Dan89 Se25 11 Aug 17 11.51am |
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Originally posted by Hudsoneagle
So we shouldn't loan players but we should loan Chambers? lol A player who was for sale at 7m last year and is now valued at 20m after Borough got relegated and would still cost 20-30m next summer if we loaned him and he played ok...you might as well class him as a player we couldn't sign. I would avoid this player.
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| Username Horsham 11 Aug 17 11.51am |
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Originally posted by Dan89
It's not long term solution, fast forward to next summer and we still have these holes in the team developing for Chelsea and Man Utd benefit. We should be looking for more long term. Yes, but if we bring in a couple more players on permanent deals, then next summer we have less holes to fill overall.
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| Southampton_Eagle At the after party 11 Aug 17 11.52am |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Some good points here but the fact is that loanees are not something you can build anything around. When a new manager comes in he is looking to start a series of seasons where we build a team in his image, and a system and style of play. Loanees can certainly help instill a system but when some call it a win win, you could say it’s a lose lose. If they turn out to be Bamford it’s a total waste of time. If they turn out to be Sakho you get some short term gains then you are dealt a big blow when they abruptly disappear and you cannot fill that immense void – think about Sakho last year, sure it was down to an injury, but if a loan player turns out be a massive success then when they inevitably disappear you are weakened, not strengthened. I am past the point of wanting to lurch from one relegation scrap to the next hell bent on survival at all costs, its time for our team to grow and FDB to build something here. And we cannot say “thank god we only loaned Sanogo” as we never would have signed half of those guys permanently. I agree with loans if we actually have a chance at buying the player but I don’t think that’s the case with RLC or TFM. Would you have prefered us not to have loaned Sakho in and gone down?
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| Southampton_Eagle At the after party 11 Aug 17 12.03pm |
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Originally posted by Dan89
You must be very fragile if you read anything insulting in the post you've just quoted!
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| Hudsoneagle 11 Aug 17 12.12pm |
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Originally posted by Username
Yes, but if we bring in a couple more players on permanent deals, then next summer we have less holes to fill overall. Who is paying for these permanent deals?
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| Hudsoneagle 11 Aug 17 12.22pm |
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Originally posted by Southampton_Eagle
You must be very fragile if you read anything insulting in the post you've just quoted! He refers to when I "asked" if he was an idiot because I started to sense he might not be all there.
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| Southampton_Eagle At the after party 11 Aug 17 12.32pm |
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Originally posted by Hudsoneagle
He refers to when I "asked" if he was an idiot because I started to sense he might not be all there. You may be right.
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| Oliver Bodega Bay 11 Aug 17 12.34pm |
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Gives FDB and the board a further 12 months to identify, agree a fee, agree terms and more importantly wait for the medical results for the players they want to bring in.
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| Dan89 Se25 11 Aug 17 12.38pm |
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Originally posted by Hudsoneagle
He refers to when I "asked" if he was an idiot because I started to sense he might not be all there. No we buy deeney with the money. Great idea not
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coulsdoneagle  London 11 Aug 17 12.41pm |
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The market ha to stabilise, it's absolutely out of control right now and it's not sustainable, if we rely on 2-4 loans domestic and foreign for the next couple of years then that's fine by me. Also there will be success stories like Sakho who we could have bought if we had the cash. A player if that quality bought in to the ethos of the club and actually wanted to stay here, if we'd offered 30 mil instead of the loan offer in January the chances are he would have thought he could do a lot better.
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