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Kermit8 Hevon 08 Aug 17 4.39pm
A battalion of women on the rag would make Attila and his Hunsx seem like Quakers. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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A battalion of women on the rag would make Attila and his Hunsx seem like Quakers.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Ray in Houston Houston 08 Aug 17 5.18pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays That's fair enough....If any woman can pass the requirement in the combat role then why not. This lady seemed to make a good fist of it. [Link] We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

That's fair enough....If any woman can pass the requirement in the combat role then why not.

This lady seemed to make a good fist of it. [Link]

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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Ray in Houston Houston 08 Aug 17 5.24pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 A lot of the special forces work is in recon and intelligence gathering. Women tend to draw less attention and have an easier time moving around freely than men and also draw less suspicion, because they're women. Also when you consider the enemy will typically be male soldiers, infiltration by a woman is a lot easier. Its not really about size, its about actually being a woman. If I recall correctly, from reading "Bravo Two Zero", the special forces dudes tended to have smaller, more compact frames. I guess a big lumbering oaf wouldn't very mobile or stealthy. We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.
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Houston 08 Aug 17 5.24pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

A lot of the special forces work is in recon and intelligence gathering. Women tend to draw less attention and have an easier time moving around freely than men and also draw less suspicion, because they're women. Also when you consider the enemy will typically be male soldiers, infiltration by a woman is a lot easier.

Its not really about size, its about actually being a woman.

If I recall correctly, from reading "Bravo Two Zero", the special forces dudes tended to have smaller, more compact frames. I guess a big lumbering oaf wouldn't very mobile or stealthy.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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Ray in Houston Houston 08 Aug 17 5.28pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays How much is this just your opinion? Are there any generals calling for more women in recon and intelligence gathering? If they need them and women want to do it and can pass the tests then fine. Women have been spies for as long as there have been spies. Mata Hari and Violette Szabo (Carve Her Name with Pride) come to mind instantly. As for serving in combat, it was the women who wanted the job who forced the issue, not bleeding heart liberals. Edited by Ray in Houston (08 Aug 2017 5.30pm) We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

How much is this just your opinion? Are there any generals calling for more women in recon and intelligence gathering? If they need them and women want to do it and can pass the tests then fine.

Women have been spies for as long as there have been spies. Mata Hari and Violette Szabo (Carve Her Name with Pride) come to mind instantly.

As for serving in combat, it was the women who wanted the job who forced the issue, not bleeding heart liberals.

Edited by Ray in Houston (08 Aug 2017 5.30pm)

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jamiemartin721 Reading 08 Aug 17 5.30pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays How much is this just your opinion? Are there any generals calling for more women in recon and intelligence gathering? If they need them and women want to do it and can pass the tests then fine. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Aug 2017 4.37pm) Its something I came across in a book on Delta Force - one of its officers was lamenting that they lacked female operatives due to the selection processes of the US military. I'm not saying that men can't do the role - its just that if you want to send someone in to place surveillance devices women tend to draw much less attention (which is why MI-5 and MI-6 have a large pool of female assets and agents). Women tend to be trusted more, and overlooked more than men when it comes to security. Plus you can do things like outfit things like prams with cameras and listening devices without standing out. Although having had a bit of a google it seems the UK Special Forces have formed a specific Special Recon Regiment that works alongside the SAS and SBS which does have an increasing number of women. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

How much is this just your opinion? Are there any generals calling for more women in recon and intelligence gathering? If they need them and women want to do it and can pass the tests then fine.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Aug 2017 4.37pm)

Its something I came across in a book on Delta Force - one of its officers was lamenting that they lacked female operatives due to the selection processes of the US military.

I'm not saying that men can't do the role - its just that if you want to send someone in to place surveillance devices women tend to draw much less attention (which is why MI-5 and MI-6 have a large pool of female assets and agents). Women tend to be trusted more, and overlooked more than men when it comes to security. Plus you can do things like outfit things like prams with cameras and listening devices without standing out.

Although having had a bit of a google it seems the UK Special Forces have formed a specific Special Recon Regiment that works alongside the SAS and SBS which does have an increasing number of women.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Ray in Houston Houston 08 Aug 17 5.32pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Its something I came across in a book on Delta Force - one of its officers was lamenting that they lacked female operatives due to the selection processes of the US military. I'm not saying that men can't do the role - its just that if you want to send someone in to place surveillance devices women tend to draw much less attention (which is why MI-5 and MI-6 have a large pool of female assets and agents). Women tend to be trusted more, and overlooked more than men when it comes to security. Plus you can do things like outfit things like prams with cameras and listening devices without standing out. Although having had a bit of a google it seems the UK Special Forces have formed a specific Special Recon Regiment that works alongside the SAS and SBS which does have an increasing number of women. Women carry handbags; a man with a bag would raise more suspicion. We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.
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Houston 08 Aug 17 5.32pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Its something I came across in a book on Delta Force - one of its officers was lamenting that they lacked female operatives due to the selection processes of the US military.

I'm not saying that men can't do the role - its just that if you want to send someone in to place surveillance devices women tend to draw much less attention (which is why MI-5 and MI-6 have a large pool of female assets and agents). Women tend to be trusted more, and overlooked more than men when it comes to security. Plus you can do things like outfit things like prams with cameras and listening devices without standing out.

Although having had a bit of a google it seems the UK Special Forces have formed a specific Special Recon Regiment that works alongside the SAS and SBS which does have an increasing number of women.

Women carry handbags; a man with a bag would raise more suspicion.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 08 Aug 17 5.34pm
Originally posted by Ray in Houston If I recall correctly, from reading "Bravo Two Zero", the special forces dudes tended to have smaller, more compact frames. I guess a big lumbering oaf wouldn't very mobile or stealthy. I met Andy McNabb when he came to do a signing session at our bookstore. Much smaller and less intimidating than you'd think (well they said it was Andy McNabb). Thing is, no matter how small you are, women generally can move around much more freely and openly than men can, especially in occupied territory. The SOE found this in France, the FRU in Northern Ireland plus people talk more openly to women (i.e. brag in a way they wouldn't do so openly with men). Women just make better spies than men, because of the inherent / institutional sexism in most nations. Its kind of harder for a bloke to flirt his way out of a risky situation. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston

If I recall correctly, from reading "Bravo Two Zero", the special forces dudes tended to have smaller, more compact frames. I guess a big lumbering oaf wouldn't very mobile or stealthy.

I met Andy McNabb when he came to do a signing session at our bookstore. Much smaller and less intimidating than you'd think (well they said it was Andy McNabb).

Thing is, no matter how small you are, women generally can move around much more freely and openly than men can, especially in occupied territory. The SOE found this in France, the FRU in Northern Ireland plus people talk more openly to women (i.e. brag in a way they wouldn't do so openly with men).

Women just make better spies than men, because of the inherent / institutional sexism in most nations. Its kind of harder for a bloke to flirt his way out of a risky situation.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Ray in Houston Houston 08 Aug 17 5.35pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I met Andy McNabb when he came to do a signing session at our bookstore. Much smaller and less intimidating than you'd think (well they said it was Andy McNabb). Thing is, no matter how small you are, women generally can move around much more freely and openly than men can, especially in occupied territory. The SOE found this in France, the FRU in Northern Ireland plus people talk more openly to women (i.e. brag in a way they wouldn't do so openly with men). Women just make better spies than men, because of the inherent / institutional sexism in most nations. Its kind of harder for a bloke to flirt his way out of a risky situation. Basically, (straight) men are dumb when it comes to women. Edited by Ray in Houston (08 Aug 2017 5.36pm) We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I met Andy McNabb when he came to do a signing session at our bookstore. Much smaller and less intimidating than you'd think (well they said it was Andy McNabb).

Women just make better spies than men, because of the inherent / institutional sexism in most nations. Its kind of harder for a bloke to flirt his way out of a risky situation.

Basically, (straight) men are dumb when it comes to women.

Edited by Ray in Houston (08 Aug 2017 5.36pm)

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 08 Aug 17 5.47pm
Originally posted by Ray in Houston Basically, (straight) men are dumb when it comes to women. Edited by Ray in Houston (08 Aug 2017 5.36pm) I know I am. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 08 Aug 17 5.47pm

Originally posted by Ray in Houston

Basically, (straight) men are dumb when it comes to women.

Edited by Ray in Houston (08 Aug 2017 5.36pm)

I know I am.

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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Aug 17 6.09pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I met Andy McNabb when he came to do a signing session at our bookstore. Much smaller and less intimidating than you'd think (well they said it was Andy McNabb). Thing is, no matter how small you are, women generally can move around much more freely and openly than men can, especially in occupied territory. The SOE found this in France, the FRU in Northern Ireland plus people talk more openly to women (i.e. brag in a way they wouldn't do so openly with men). Women just make better spies than men, because of the inherent / institutional sexism in most nations. Its kind of harder for a bloke to flirt his way out of a risky situation. You do realise that you just used the same kind of stereotyping that progressives frown upon. They want us to believe that men and women are the same. I could also throw in sizeism. Presumably, it should be a sin to say a bigger person is less stealthy. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (08 Aug 2017 8.35pm)
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I met Andy McNabb when he came to do a signing session at our bookstore. Much smaller and less intimidating than you'd think (well they said it was Andy McNabb).

Women just make better spies than men, because of the inherent / institutional sexism in most nations. Its kind of harder for a bloke to flirt his way out of a risky situation.

You do realise that you just used the same kind of stereotyping that progressives frown upon.
They want us to believe that men and women are the same.
I could also throw in sizeism. Presumably, it should be a sin to say a bigger person is less stealthy.

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Ray in Houston Houston 08 Aug 17 7.53pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger You do realise that you just the same kind of stereotyping that progressives frown upon. They want us to believe that men and women are the same. I could also throw in sizeism. Presumably, it should be a sin to say a bigger person is less stealthy. That's a nice straw man you've got there. We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You do realise that you just the same kind of stereotyping that progressives frown upon.
They want us to believe that men and women are the same.
I could also throw in sizeism. Presumably, it should be a sin to say a bigger person is less stealthy.

That's a nice straw man you've got there.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Aug 17 8.33pm
How's that? Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (08 Aug 2017 8.34pm)
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How's that?

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