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hedgehog50  Croydon 03 Aug 17 9.58am |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
The HF Henry Ford? Didn't realise his activities extended that far.
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 Stirlingsays 03 Aug 17 10.31am |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
What caused this Big Bang? We currently have no way of knowing that. We have to recognise the extent of knowledge..What can be known from where we are now.....When you learn just how small the Planck length is...which is the smallest something can be that makes sense....you recognise the current limit to our knowledge....take one point six metres, separate it into ten equal parts. Now repeat that process another 34 times. That's the planck length.....Or another way to think of it is to think of a single strand of human hair...which is roughly the smallest thing we can see at 0.1mm....now imagine that strand of hair was expanded in size to the extent of the observable universe.....now how small would a planck length be in proportion...well it would be 0.1mm...or that size of a single human strand of hair...just about observable with the human eye. That's the planck length....imagine what's going on below the sizes of of things incredibly far far far smaller than the 'particles' that make up atoms....it's mind blowing. You start to recognise just how much missing potential knowledge there is. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Aug 2017 10.34am)
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 Hrolf The Ganger 03 Aug 17 10.49am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The powerhouse work in these areas isn't done for potential unclear commercial advantages. They are spin offs that benefit us. The reason that so much brain power goes into these pursuits is largely philosophically driven. If the west isn't doing this work, then it eventually will be done by others who aren't the west. We don't know how that would work out for us. Hitler learnt the lesson of not bothering with 'Jewish science'. We have learnt the benefits of keeping up the pace of research into science and technology. That's why we have the EU space agency and Nasa and projects like CERN ..all obviously funded by taxpayers from around the work.
I think you are disagreeing with something I haven't said.
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thebob  Tatebayashi (from Croydon) 03 Aug 17 10.59am |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
What caused this Big Bang? At the instant of the Big Bang, spacetime as we know it appears to have come into existence . So it is very difficult to ascertain what came before time, because there may not have been any time to measure it by. We are not even sure that causality, the process where an effect follows a cause has been observable all the way back to the singularity. Without causality everything is a bit iffy. That is a technical term to mean we don't really know but like to talk about it anyway!
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| Stirlingsays 03 Aug 17 11.02am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I think you are disagreeing with something I haven't said. But we have no way of knowing that it might be useless. I suppose I'm not getting the point. Forgive me, I'm not trying to be adversarial.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 03 Aug 17 11.39am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
But we have no way of knowing that it might be useless. I suppose I'm not getting the point. Forgive me, I'm not trying to be adversarial. That's true. I Love science
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 Aug 17 11.47am |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
However we came about, my evening is going to be the same. You came about because your mum got into the bath after your dad.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Aug 17 11.48am |
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The 'event' of big bang might not be of much use, the process by which quantum flavours create atomic structure and thus molecules (and ultimately everything) could be the most important future knowledge of mankind. If you can engineer on a quantum or sub-atomic scale, you can effectively turn anything into anything else with relative ease. A post scarcity society should be the end goal of capitalism. Perfect recycling, where you could turn old refuse into food - and that's before you get to the applications to living tissue. Nanotechnology would represent an epoch for humanity on a scale that would be unequalled in human existence.
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| Part Time James 03 Aug 17 11.57am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
You came about because your mum got into the bath after your dad. Oh listen to you coming from a posh background where everyone had their own bath of asses milk. I bet your lot flushed after every poo as well didn't they?
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| Part Time James 03 Aug 17 11.58am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Isn't that one of the terms and conditions of this forum?
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| Part Time James 03 Aug 17 11.59am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
The 'event' of big bang might not be of much use, the process by which quantum flavours create atomic structure and thus molecules (and ultimately everything) could be the most important future knowledge of mankind. If you can engineer on a quantum or sub-atomic scale, you can effectively turn anything into anything else with relative ease. A post scarcity society should be the end goal of capitalism. Perfect recycling, where you could turn old refuse into food - and that's before you get to the applications to living tissue. Nanotechnology would represent an epoch for humanity on a scale that would be unequalled in human existence. You lost me on your first use of the word "quantum".
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| Stirlingsays 03 Aug 17 12.13pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
That's true. I Love science Nothing wrong with devil's advocate......Except he doesn't exist.....It's the greatest trick he ever played.
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