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Part Time James Flag 25 Jul 17 4.16pm Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Personally chlorine doesn't ring alarm bells. If they had said plutonium and knob cheese I might have thought we should put the breaks on right now.

 




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glazedallover Flag Allier 25 Jul 17 4.21pm Send a Private Message to glazedallover Add glazedallover as a friend

Originally posted by Part Time James

I once thought that was what "ethnic cleansing" meant.

I understand they taste just like chicken.

 

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Mr Palaceman Flag 25 Jul 17 4.38pm Send a Private Message to Mr Palaceman Add Mr Palaceman as a friend

Originally posted by Islington Eagle

The "free marketeers" like to present the food we eat as a free choice issue. Label it up and then sell it and people can choose. However I think this is extremeley misleading. Obesity and ill health (Type 2 diabetes for instance) is now costing the NHS £6bn per year and this is expected to reach £10bn by 2050.
Food manufacturers are the new cigarette companies, funding scientists to produce misleading papers blaming everyone but themselves for loading food full of Sugar, transfatty acids, corn starch etc. High Fat, nutrient poor foods that are shortening peoples lives and filling up (extra large) beds in hospitals. Farmers have lobbied governments (in Europe and America) and are hugely funded by public subsidy. It is a choice whether we subsidise farmers to produce quality products and manage our rural environment (as has largely been the case in Europe more recently) or subside them to mass produce cheap food with little regard to quality or the environment (as has been the case in the US - but not in every state).
What I believe is that food manufacturers - especially the huge multinationals - do not pay the social cost of the crap they sell - blaming it on consumer choice - whilst all the time blocking clearer labelling, advertising restrictions ~(junk food during kids programming)etc.
In years to come I think we will look back to now and regard some food companies the same way we now look back on cigarette companies, who knowlingly sold cancer causing cigarettes to people whilst doing all they could to hide the true impact of the damage they were doing.
There is a role for government in what people eat. It is not the nanny state as in the end it costs the tax payer when they end up ill. How we do this is not straightforward but everyone needs to bear in mind that the food complanies, farmers and biotech firms (Monsanto etc.) have HUGE lobbying machines in the EU and in the USA, and will fight tooth and nail to protect their profits - public health is not in their interest. Ask yourself why they lobby government??? Why do they need to lobby government if they are doing something that the "free market" needs. POST brexit these lobby firms will be at Westminster and I do not trust Liam Fox to stand up to them. He will trouser as much cash as he can (remember he stole more cash from the taxpayer than anyone else in the MP expenses scandal) and will then end up on the board of all these companies after he leaves parliament - like all these othere politicians.
A FTA between the US and the UK is a huge mismatch in power and I worry that the we will take anything we are offered. We must be super cautious - but I fear the worst. That is why TTIP took years and years to negotitate. Chlorine washed Chicken and Hormone injected beef are just small examples of what corporate america has in store for us. And it is the poor that will suffer (not in the pocket but in health) - as well as, in this case UK farmers and the rural economy - not the well off that can afford the better options. But remember in the end it is the taxpayer that will pay - and the corporations that trouser the profits.

Good post.

 


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Ray in Houston Flag Houston 25 Jul 17 4.45pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Illegal under EU law but the Liam Fox (how apt) hinted that deregulation post brexit will oil the wheels of a trade deal.

Gove isn't happy about watering down environmental regulations. May has washed her hands of it all (with anti bacterial hand wash no doubt)

American Holers, what does chlorine washed chicken taste like?

What do others think. Are we letting standards slip? Will we undermine our own poultry business? Would you eat chlorine washed chicken?


Processed foods over here are so bad that I've stopped eating them as far as possible - including meat. Chlorine-washed chicken is nothing compared to the "pink slime" scandal with processed beef. The "pink slime" in question being all the not-fit-for-human-consumption detritus of a slaughtered cow which is washed with ammonia - yes, ammonia - and thus rendered fit for human consumption. Somehow. If beef processors use lass than 15% of pink slime in their products, they are allowed to label it "100% all natural beef".

I'm a vegetarian now. My shopping bills are way lower, my energy levels are way up, I sleep better, I s*** better and my waistline is shrinking. I don't know if it simply the result of cutting out meat or if it's because I'm not ingesting the associated artificial preservatives, steroids, anti-biotics and household cleaning products that come with it, but the results have been fantastic.

Edited by Ray in Houston (25 Jul 2017 4.46pm)

 


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Mr Palaceman Flag 25 Jul 17 4.52pm Send a Private Message to Mr Palaceman Add Mr Palaceman as a friend

Originally posted by NickinOX

What is your evidence for that? That is, other than a few cases of problems with some towns or neighborhoods where the local ordinances about property upkeep are strict or misinterpreted, or the issue is growing food in an inner city to sell it. That would never happen back in Britain...

Given the amount of land, I'd say it is far more common here to grow or hunt for food.

I saw an interview with a woman who was told by her doctor that she had Diabetes and she must change her diet and eat more fresh produce. She went out to buy fresh fruit and veg but there was not one shop that sold anything fresh.

Undeterred, she had a garden, and started to grow her own. She received a bit if attention and to cut a long story short, the local authority forced her to stop.

Your right it was in the inner city.

 


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Ray in Houston Flag Houston 25 Jul 17 4.57pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I ain't a perfect world. It's a trade off of benefits v risk.
There are many food products that are subject to this sort of compromise. Levels of safety are set to make a product viable meaning that an element of risk will remain in some cases.

Compromise is a nice way of putting it. We're talking about a US government that - in order to get around dietary regulations for schoolkids - passed a bill that designated pizza as vegetable, because it has tomatoes on it. Tomatoes, of course, being a fruit.

I do not trust these f***ers to protect the public over the profits of the food industry, and neither should you.

 


We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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Ray in Houston Flag Houston 25 Jul 17 5.04pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by Mr Palaceman

I saw an interview with a woman who was told by her doctor that she had Diabetes and she must change her diet and eat more fresh produce. She went out to buy fresh fruit and veg but there was not one shop that sold anything fresh.


These are called "food deserts", and the fact that they exist in large enough numbers / areas to be given a name is shocking. [Link]

Of course, like a lot of things bad in America, it's a phenomena most prevalent across the south, where people consistently vote against their own best interests because Democrats gave black people the right to vote half a century ago.

 


We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 25 Jul 17 5.05pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

our tap water is treated with chlorine (one of the last treatment processes). It kills any remaining nasty stuff and is then removed from the water before entering the water supply loop.
Not sure how it will effect chicken entering this country, or how our own producers will respond.

I guess it will all come down to cost. Price v safety

 


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YT Flag Oxford 25 Jul 17 5.07pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

The egg came before the chicken. What did dinosaurs hatch from?

I didn't ask which came first...

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 25 Jul 17 5.08pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Ray in Houston

Compromise is a nice way of putting it. We're talking about a US government that - in order to get around dietary regulations for schoolkids - passed a bill that designated pizza as vegetable, because it has tomatoes on it. Tomatoes, of course, being a fruit.

I do not trust these f***ers to protect the public over the profits of the food industry, and neither should you.

But you want a huge variety of foodstuffs transported around the world and arriving looking nice and fresh and tasty looking.
Do you drink, smoke or breath the air? You are at more risk from that than food.

 

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chris123 Flag hove actually 25 Jul 17 5.10pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

You can get a 4lb chicken from Tescos for £4.50 so not sure what the point is of buying processed meat.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 25 Jul 17 5.10pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

But you want a huge variety of foodstuffs transported around the world and arriving looking nice and fresh and tasty looking.
Do you drink, smoke or breath the air? You are at more risk from that than food.

I don't think that's the issue though is it. Its surely about having to accept others rules and regulations over our own soverignity to determine our rules and regulations.

 


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