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Part Time James 11 Jul 17 11.33am
Originally posted by Kermit8 Yes, let's. But we will need a list of those things to start it off. Highlight the negative impacts that are specific to it like FGM and not stuff that is across the board within ethic and non-ethnic groups and a debating cul-de-sac like drug crime. So, what are these number of thing that you are offended by that the country has had to endure since modern immigration began? The Polish sausages in Tesco have turned my wife's head. Edited by Part Time James (11 Jul 2017 11.34am)
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Originally posted by Kermit8

Yes, let's. But we will need a list of those things to start it off. Highlight the negative impacts that are specific to it like FGM and not stuff that is across the board within ethic and non-ethnic groups and a debating cul-de-sac like drug crime.

So, what are these number of thing that you are offended by that the country has had to endure since modern immigration began?

The Polish sausages in Tesco have turned my wife's head.

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Kermit8 Hevon 11 Jul 17 11.37am
Originally posted by Part Time James Is "coloured" that bad? There's an African guy at work, probably the blackest guy I know (as if there was such thing as a grading system) and he said to me the other day "Bournemouth have signed that guy from Chelsea, you know, the tall coloured guy". I had to stifle a giggle. It's not bad just outdated and dying out. All the olds and plenty of young used it in the 70's but so did South Africa during Apartheid as did segregated America back in the day. Just has a negativity about it now for most apart from some of the older generation I suppose. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 11 Jul 17 11.37am

Originally posted by Part Time James

Is "coloured" that bad? There's an African guy at work, probably the blackest guy I know (as if there was such thing as a grading system) and he said to me the other day "Bournemouth have signed that guy from Chelsea, you know, the tall coloured guy".

I had to stifle a giggle.

It's not bad just outdated and dying out. All the olds and plenty of young used it in the 70's but so did South Africa during Apartheid as did segregated America back in the day. Just has a negativity about it now for most apart from some of the older generation I suppose.

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Kermit8 Hevon 11 Jul 17 11.41am
Originally posted by kinky1960 It amazes me that this phrase is found offensive it's all about a piece of wood not a person. Still this is a sensitive multi cultural situation which long after I am pushing up the daisies will be resolved either by free speech being taken away from us by the looney left or the mad mullahs. Oh damn I said mad mullahs should I be banned? It is about a person/people. Relates to Freedmen and escaping slaves/ex-slaves fleeing to safe states before getting lynched by the Southern lot post American Civil War by hiding amongst logs. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 11 Jul 17 11.41am

Originally posted by kinky1960

It amazes me that this phrase is found offensive it's all about a piece of wood not a person.
Still this is a sensitive multi cultural situation which long after I am pushing up the daisies will be resolved either by free speech being taken away from us by the looney left or the mad mullahs.
Oh damn I said mad mullahs should I be banned?

It is about a person/people. Relates to Freedmen and escaping slaves/ex-slaves fleeing to safe states before getting lynched by the Southern lot post American Civil War by hiding amongst logs.

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Hrolf The Ganger 11 Jul 17 11.43am
Originally posted by Kermit8 Yes, let's. But we will need a list of those things to start it off. Highlight the negative impacts that are specific to it like FGM and not stuff that is across the board within ethic and non-ethnic groups and a debating cul-de-sac like drug crime. So, what are these number of thing that you are offended by that the country has had to endure since modern immigration began? I'll decide what is offensive to me thanks. I don't need your guidelines. The bottom line is I don't want to hear about some woman saying a naughty word in the context of a country with vastly increased street crime,terrorism, drug dealing, gang culture ,mass child abuse specifically involving white girls, no go ghettos, backward religious practices etc, all as a result of immigration.
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Originally posted by Kermit8

So, what are these number of thing that you are offended by that the country has had to endure since modern immigration began?

I'll decide what is offensive to me thanks. I don't need your guidelines.
The bottom line is I don't want to hear about some woman saying a naughty word in the context of a country with vastly increased street crime,terrorism, drug dealing, gang culture ,mass child abuse specifically involving white girls, no go ghettos, backward religious practices etc, all as a result of immigration.

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mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 11 Jul 17 11.45am
Originally posted by Kermit8 It is about a person/people. Relates to Freedmen and escaping slaves/ex-slaves fleeing to safe states before getting lynched by the Southern lot post American Civil War by hiding amongst logs. So that's why Dougie walked Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.
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Originally posted by Kermit8

It is about a person/people. Relates to Freedmen and escaping slaves/ex-slaves fleeing to safe states before getting lynched by the Southern lot post American Civil War by hiding amongst logs.

So that's why Dougie walked

Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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Part Time James 11 Jul 17 12.08pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 It's not bad just outdated and dying out. All the olds and plenty of young used it in the 70's but so did South Africa during Apartheid as did segregated America back in the day. Just has a negativity about it now for most apart from some of the older generation I suppose. I try not to describe people in relation to their gender, religion, sexuality, ethnicity or football team any more anyway so I don't need to know the PC words for stuff. There's always something else to go on, like "the fella with the afro and the Tupac t-shirt".
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11 Jul 17 12.08pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

I try not to describe people in relation to their gender, religion, sexuality, ethnicity or football team any more anyway so I don't need to know the PC words for stuff. There's always something else to go on, like "the fella with the afro and the Tupac t-shirt".

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wordup 11 Jul 17 1.03pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 Are you offended when a black person uses 'the word' (is it ok to use the phrase 'the word' by the way as it is simply replacing the offensive word). Of course I used the pronoun 'they', would you rather I used 'we'? I agree that the figure of speech in question is not used these days and neither should it be, but it was in fairly common usage when I was a child - but I am quite old. Also your statement that I am 'leaping to the defence' of the use of the word, if you read my posts, it is clear that I am not. Edited by hedgehog50 (11 Jul 2017 7.26am) 'They' and 'we' as your only options just displays a them and us mindset really, as if that was the only way to discuss this matter.. Much in the same way that Labour were damaged with the Jewish community and their response to some of what went on there, the only sensible response to a politician slipping 'N*gger in the woodpile' into a sentence like it's nothing is to condemn it, not excuse it or clutch at straws to attack elsewhere. Regardless of a person's political hue this isn't a difficult one.
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11 Jul 17 1.03pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Are you offended when a black person uses 'the word' (is it ok to use the phrase 'the word' by the way as it is simply replacing the offensive word). Of course I used the pronoun 'they', would you rather I used 'we'? I agree that the figure of speech in question is not used these days and neither should it be, but it was in fairly common usage when I was a child - but I am quite old. Also your statement that I am 'leaping to the defence' of the use of the word, if you read my posts, it is clear that I am not.

Edited by hedgehog50 (11 Jul 2017 7.26am)

'They' and 'we' as your only options just displays a them and us mindset really, as if that was the only way to discuss this matter..

Much in the same way that Labour were damaged with the Jewish community and their response to some of what went on there, the only sensible response to a politician slipping 'N*gger in the woodpile' into a sentence like it's nothing is to condemn it, not excuse it or clutch at straws to attack elsewhere. Regardless of a person's political hue this isn't a difficult one.

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Kermit8 Hevon 11 Jul 17 1.06pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I'll decide what is offensive to me thanks. I don't need your guidelines. The bottom line is I don't want to hear about some woman saying a naughty word in the context of a country with vastly increased street crime,terrorism, drug dealing, gang culture ,mass child abuse specifically involving white girls, no go ghettos, backward religious practices etc, all as a result of immigration. Well, there was more street crime and child abuse in Victorian times and gang culture was big before you and I were even born and is today as well especially in places like Glasgow and South London and not forgetting the hooligan firms. So it's not really specific to immigration as such. More socio-economic. As for terrorism that also has come from various groups here in the UK since the 70's to today so again not specific to immigration when looked at as a whole. Fact is the majority of crimes are committed by the natives and not immigrants. Some areas of crime will be disproportionate amongst ethnic lines but again those crimes aren't perpetrated by one type of immigrant group save for FGM and 'honour' attacks. They are committed by various ones and indigenous ones too. So, I ask again - what are these number of things that you are offended by that the country has had to endure since modern immigration began? That we wouldn't have had if we hadn't had had the immigration you are thinking about. Edited by Kermit8 (11 Jul 2017 1.10pm) Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 11 Jul 17 1.06pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I'll decide what is offensive to me thanks. I don't need your guidelines.
The bottom line is I don't want to hear about some woman saying a naughty word in the context of a country with vastly increased street crime,terrorism, drug dealing, gang culture ,mass child abuse specifically involving white girls, no go ghettos, backward religious practices etc, all as a result of immigration.

Well, there was more street crime and child abuse in Victorian times and gang culture was big before you and I were even born and is today as well especially in places like Glasgow and South London and not forgetting the hooligan firms. So it's not really specific to immigration as such. More socio-economic. As for terrorism that also has come from various groups here in the UK since the 70's to today so again not specific to immigration when looked at as a whole.

Fact is the majority of crimes are committed by the natives and not immigrants. Some areas of crime will be disproportionate amongst ethnic lines but again those crimes aren't perpetrated by one type of immigrant group save for FGM and 'honour' attacks. They are committed by various ones and indigenous ones too.

So, I ask again - what are these number of things that you are offended by that the country has had to endure since modern immigration began? That we wouldn't have had if we hadn't had had the immigration you are thinking about.

Edited by Kermit8 (11 Jul 2017 1.10pm)

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hedgehog50 Croydon 11 Jul 17 1.10pm
Originally posted by wordup 'They' and 'we' as your only options just displays a them and us mindset really, as if that was the only way to discuss this matter.. Much in the same way that Labour were damaged with the Jewish community and their response to some of what went on there, the only sensible response to a politician slipping 'Ngger in the woodpile' into a sentence like it's nothing is to condemn it, not excuse it or clutch at straws to attack elsewhere. Regardless of a person's political hue this isn't a difficult one. I haven't excused it or clutched at any straws, I'm more than happy to condemn it. I just think it is blown up out all proportion. Talking of blowing up, I see that Michael Hayes, P**y terrorist has said he made the bombs that killed and maimed many people in Birmingham. Will Sin Fein withdraw the whip? We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 11 Jul 17 1.10pm

Originally posted by wordup

'They' and 'we' as your only options just displays a them and us mindset really, as if that was the only way to discuss this matter..

I haven't excused it or clutched at any straws, I'm more than happy to condemn it. I just think it is blown up out all proportion. Talking of blowing up, I see that Michael Hayes, P***y terrorist has said he made the bombs that killed and maimed many people in Birmingham. Will Sin Fein withdraw the whip?

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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YT Oxford 11 Jul 17 1.35pm
Originally posted by nickgusset It's why Dambusters is never on the telly anymore. Actually it's on the telly quite often, but when Guy Gibson calls out his dog's name the word "boy" is awkwardly dubbed over it. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 11 Jul 17 1.35pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

It's why Dambusters is never on the telly anymore.

Actually it's on the telly quite often, but when Guy Gibson calls out his dog's name the word "boy" is awkwardly dubbed over it.

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wordup 11 Jul 17 1.41pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 I haven't excused it or clutched at any straws, I'm more than happy to condemn it. I just think it is blown up out all proportion. Talking of blowing up, I see that Michael Hayes, P***y terrorist has said he made the bombs that killed and maimed many people in Birmingham. Will Sin Fein withdraw the whip? Blown out of proportion so much that you are desperate to talk about anything but this issue in a thread about the issue it seems. But then again as you've said 'in your day' it was fine to blurt this out so what's the biggy. It certainly does seem that 'withdrawing the whip' is something that has unsettled you. Anyway carry on... No more replies to this nonsense from me here. Have fun. Edited by wordup (11 Jul 2017 1.42pm)
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11 Jul 17 1.41pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Blown out of proportion so much that you are desperate to talk about anything but this issue in a thread about the issue it seems. But then again as you've said 'in your day' it was fine to blurt this out so what's the biggy. It certainly does seem that 'withdrawing the whip' is something that has unsettled you. Anyway carry on... No more replies to this nonsense from me here. Have fun.

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Hrolf The Ganger 11 Jul 17 2.20pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Well, there was more street crime and child abuse in Victorian times and gang culture was big before you and I were even born and is today as well especially in places like Glasgow and South London and not forgetting the hooligan firms. So it's not really specific to immigration as such. More socio-economic. As for terrorism that also has come from various groups here in the UK since the 70's to today so again not specific to immigration when looked at as a whole. Fact is the majority of crimes are committed by the natives and not immigrants. Some areas of crime will be disproportionate amongst ethnic lines but again those crimes aren't perpetrated by one type of immigrant group save for FGM and 'honour' attacks. They are committed by various ones and indigenous ones too. So, I ask again - what are these number of things that you are offended by that the country has had to endure since modern immigration began? That we wouldn't have had if we hadn't had had the immigration you are thinking about. Edited by Kermit8 (11 Jul 2017 1.10pm) Codswallop. Very little is specific. That is a poor argument.
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11 Jul 17 2.20pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Edited by Kermit8 (11 Jul 2017 1.10pm)

Codswallop.
Very little is specific. That is a poor argument.

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