Are you quoting Shakespeare?

Such snobbishness manifests itself amonng English speakers in such ways as vocabulary selection (using long and fancy words instead of straightforward ones), accent (affected RP), or hypercorrectness (trying to look clever but actually getting it wrong, for example using "whom" as a subject or "wherefore" when you mean "where" ). It's not my experience that Germans go in for such things. The vocabulary is less rich so doesn't allow much in the way of fancy choices, although a speaker may deliberately avoid foreign loan words in favour of calques (loan translations), such as "Fernsprecher" instead of "Telefon". The grammar is either correct or not, even people of limited education can decline the noun or send the verb to the end of a subordinate clause, although there are particular points that social status or attitude can be read into, such as whether you express posession with the genetive case or with "von" + dative. And they don't seem to go in for exaggerating a standard accent ("Ai seah, Chorles, Ai think Ai've fallen orff". "Realleah?" "Ears" ).

Edited by chateauferret (30 Jun 2017 12.35pm)

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I've got to say at this point there was either some good spinning by Parish with the agreement from de Boer's camp with regard to either him being our 1st choice or us being his 1st choice.

If that were the case we'd have signed him before Southampton got close to deciding on Pellegrino. I'm not knocking the level of our 2nd choice, if that's what Frank is, or us being his, but the chances are its one of the 2. Or both. That phone call from Frank's agent to say Frank wasn't interested in Southampton, only us, I'm not 100% sold on, seeing as the Palace/Frank deal only happened once Pellegrino was agreed.

But then again either Frank or Parish or both are realistic and that's no bad thing. And as for Frank looking uncomfortable. I think he's perhaps a serious football pro, his last job was a while ago and a bad experience, plus he's struggling with English grammar a bit.

I've said before, I don't care massively about their appearances on tv, more how the team performs. As long as he sticks to what he says and doesn't go off on a tangent like managers do, getting stubborn and interested in their own image and promotion rather than being in tune with what the players can do.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (30 Jun 2017 9.50pm)

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I read a number of differing publications from the Times to the Beano. I enjoy each for very differing reasons. Those who discount one over another are yes, very much snobs and usually a sheep that follows/attempts to impress other snobs.
Have I read the Sun? Yes very much so. Does it have faults? Loads. Can it be entertaining/informative? Every bit as much as the broadsheets.
In fact most of the time if you get your nose out the air you'll notice the red tops tend to break a story far quicker than the 'Gentleman's clubs'

danke mein freund - it's another thread but why do all the public schools play wugger and the state schools play 'chavball'? And is this perhaps a reason for our limitations in both fields. At least they don't bow to the duchess of kent at centre court any more, then there's the MCC - call me a corbynite if you like but I think there's a link between our indenic snobbery and our being a bit crap, it's not just sport either, compare our car industry to other countries.