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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 19 Jun 17 10.29am
Listening to the news this morning and hearing various Muslims interviewed, all seem to have adopted an attitude of persecution, complaining that Muslims are being increasingly targeted. I would love one of the TV interviewers to have the balls to ask them why they think that is? Surely it has nothing to do with the once-a-month horrific Islamic terror attacks that mainstream society has had to endure over the past 4/5 years. This it appears seems to have been completely forgotten. If Muslims wish to generalize (saying that they are being persecuted) then they should have the foresight to realise that attacks like today's are almost certainly brought about by previous attacks which were perpetrated by other Muslims. Unfortunately and of course wrongly, its cause and effect. "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Croydon 19 Jun 17 10.29am

Listening to the news this morning and hearing various Muslims interviewed, all seem to have adopted an attitude of persecution, complaining that Muslims are being increasingly targeted.

I would love one of the TV interviewers to have the balls to ask them why they think that is? Surely it has nothing to do with the once-a-month horrific Islamic terror attacks that mainstream society has had to endure over the past 4/5 years. This it appears seems to have been completely forgotten.

If Muslims wish to generalize (saying that they are being persecuted) then they should have the foresight to realise that attacks like today's are almost certainly brought about by previous attacks which were perpetrated by other Muslims. Unfortunately and of course wrongly, its cause and effect.

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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jamiemartin721 Reading 19 Jun 17 10.30am
Originally posted by Ouzo Dan It's a terrorist attack but then it's hardly surprising. There has been a number of Islamic attacks over Ramadan including attacks classed as non terror related like the nursery teacher who was stabbed by women as they chanted allahu Akbar, throw in the al qud march yesterday which is nothing more than a front for Hezbollah knowing all too well that non muslims having a march to celebrate a terror group would have been banned from doing so. This country creeps ever closer to riots and all out brawls in the street. Guess this attack is part of living in a big city... Edited by Ouzo Dan (19 Jun 2017 6.33am) Technically its Islamist rather than Islamic. Islamic relates to the religion of Muslims, where as Islamist relates to the political movements based around Islam from Hezbollah to Iran to IS. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 19 Jun 17 10.30am

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

It's a terrorist attack but then it's hardly surprising.
There has been a number of Islamic attacks over Ramadan including attacks classed as non terror related like the nursery teacher who was stabbed by women as they chanted allahu Akbar, throw in the al qud march yesterday which is nothing more than a front for Hezbollah knowing all too well that non muslims having a march to celebrate a terror group would have been banned from doing so.

This country creeps ever closer to riots and all out brawls in the street.

Guess this attack is part of living in a big city...

Edited by Ouzo Dan (19 Jun 2017 6.33am)

Technically its Islamist rather than Islamic. Islamic relates to the religion of Muslims, where as Islamist relates to the political movements based around Islam from Hezbollah to Iran to IS.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Reading 19 Jun 17 10.30am
Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle Listening to the news this morning and hearing various Muslims interviewed, all seem to have adopted an attitude of persecution, complaining that Muslims are being increasingly targeted. I would love one of the TV interviewers to have the balls to ask them why they think that is? Surely it has nothing to do with the once-a-month horrific Islamic terror attacks that mainstream society has had to endure over the past 4/5 years. This it appears seems to have been completely forgotten. If Muslims wish to generalize (saying that they are being persecuted) then they should have the foresight to realise that attacks like today's are almost certainly brought about by previous attacks which were perpetrated by other Muslims. Unfortunately and of course wrongly, its cause and effect. Apologising for terrorism in 3.2.1.... "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 19 Jun 17 10.30am

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Listening to the news this morning and hearing various Muslims interviewed, all seem to have adopted an attitude of persecution, complaining that Muslims are being increasingly targeted.

Apologising for terrorism in 3.2.1....

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Hrolf The Ganger 19 Jun 17 10.31am
Originally posted by nickgusset And where does it mention Muslims or make any reference to how they are represented? Did you have that page saved to wheel it out for every occasion? Just more pathetic crap from you Nick. You really aren't worth engaging with anymore.
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19 Jun 17 10.31am

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Originally posted by nickgusset

And where does it mention Muslims or make any reference to how they are represented? Did you have that page saved to wheel it out for every occasion?

Just more pathetic crap from you Nick.

You really aren't worth engaging with anymore.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 19 Jun 17 10.35am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger And where does it mention Muslims or make any reference to how they are represented? Did you have that page saved to wheel it out for every occasion? Just more pathetic crap from you Nick. You really aren't worth engaging with anymore. We know what you meant. Next you'll be joining other Tommy Robinson acolytes I've seen saying the victims had it coming to them.
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Shizzlehurst 19 Jun 17 10.35am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

And where does it mention Muslims or make any reference to how they are represented? Did you have that page saved to wheel it out for every occasion?

Just more pathetic crap from you Nick.

You really aren't worth engaging with anymore.

We know what you meant.
Next you'll be joining other Tommy Robinson acolytes I've seen saying the victims had it coming to them.

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Hrolf The Ganger 19 Jun 17 10.43am
Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle Listening to the news this morning and hearing various Muslims interviewed, all seem to have adopted an attitude of persecution, complaining that Muslims are being increasingly targeted. I would love one of the TV interviewers to have the balls to ask them why they think that is? Surely it has nothing to do with the once-a-month horrific Islamic terror attacks that mainstream society has had to endure over the past 4/5 years. This it appears seems to have been completely forgotten. If Muslims wish to generalize (saying that they are being persecuted) then they should have the foresight to realise that attacks like today's are almost certainly brought about by previous attacks which were perpetrated by other Muslims. Unfortunately and of course wrongly, its cause and effect. Of course it's because people associate terrorist attacks in Britain with Islam. After all, the problem didn't exist before thousands of Muslims came here. The situation is far more complex of course but people are generally not complex and they want to make simple associations. It is the same simplicity of mind that allows people to waste their whole lives worshiping sky fairies or blowing themselves up to go to heaven. It is precisely because most people are not too bright that those who are and in government should make good decisions on their behalf. That hasn't happened and here we are.
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19 Jun 17 10.43am

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Listening to the news this morning and hearing various Muslims interviewed, all seem to have adopted an attitude of persecution, complaining that Muslims are being increasingly targeted.

I would love one of the TV interviewers to have the balls to ask them why they think that is? Surely it has nothing to do with the once-a-month horrific Islamic terror attacks that mainstream society has had to endure over the past 4/5 years. This it appears seems to have been completely forgotten.

If Muslims wish to generalize (saying that they are being persecuted) then they should have the foresight to realise that attacks like today's are almost certainly brought about by previous attacks which were perpetrated by other Muslims. Unfortunately and of course wrongly, its cause and effect.

Of course it's because people associate terrorist attacks in Britain with Islam. After all, the problem didn't exist before thousands of Muslims came here.
The situation is far more complex of course but people are generally not complex and they want to make simple associations.
It is the same simplicity of mind that allows people to waste their whole lives worshiping sky fairies or blowing themselves up to go to heaven.

It is precisely because most people are not too bright that those who are and in government should make good decisions on their behalf. That hasn't happened and here we are.

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Hrolf The Ganger 19 Jun 17 10.44am
Originally posted by nickgusset We know what you meant. Next you'll be joining other Tommy Robinson acolytes I've seen saying the victims had it coming to them. And you would be wrong.
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Hrolf The Ganger

19 Jun 17 10.44am

Originally posted by nickgusset

We know what you meant.
Next you'll be joining other Tommy Robinson acolytes I've seen saying the victims had it coming to them.

And you would be wrong.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 19 Jun 17 10.46am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Warped thinking. This is the inevitable consequence of being killed in you own country by a 'foreign' influence. People are angry and eventually, some head case will respond with more innocent people being killed as a result. The folly of multi culture. Being forced to accept it and then being told that you are the problem. Shocking manipulation by government and industry that results in a schism in our society. I don't accept that. This man doesn't represent the average white british man and woman, but a splintered sectarian mentality that has continually railed against anything different to their beliefs of British as being anti-British; Which they use as a means of obtaining political power. We've had racist violence and sectarianism in the UK for as long as there has been a UK. This is just another example of the small minded ultra-conservative and right wing mentality, seen in both groups like IS, and far right groups, that act to separate and undermine society, and divide people who have far more in common with each other. We saw it in NI with Sinn Fein and the DUP, the protestant / catholic political divides in Liverpool and Glasgow, and through out the 50s, 60s and 70s along race lines across the UK. He acted in a rational manner, defined by the kind of hate and casual sectarianism present within certain elements of the media and right wing, that deliberate associate Muslim with terrorism. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 19 Jun 17 10.46am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Warped thinking.

This is the inevitable consequence of being killed in you own country by a 'foreign' influence. People are angry and eventually, some head case will respond with more innocent people being killed as a result.

The folly of multi culture. Being forced to accept it and then being told that you are the problem. Shocking manipulation by government and industry that results in a schism in our society.

I don't accept that. This man doesn't represent the average white british man and woman, but a splintered sectarian mentality that has continually railed against anything different to their beliefs of British as being anti-British; Which they use as a means of obtaining political power.

We've had racist violence and sectarianism in the UK for as long as there has been a UK. This is just another example of the small minded ultra-conservative and right wing mentality, seen in both groups like IS, and far right groups, that act to separate and undermine society, and divide people who have far more in common with each other.

We saw it in NI with Sinn Fein and the DUP, the protestant / catholic political divides in Liverpool and Glasgow, and through out the 50s, 60s and 70s along race lines across the UK.

He acted in a rational manner, defined by the kind of hate and casual sectarianism present within certain elements of the media and right wing, that deliberate associate Muslim with terrorism.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Pikester Worthing 19 Jun 17 10.46am
Originally posted by nickgusset We know what you meant. Next you'll be joining other Tommy Robinson acolytes I've seen saying the victims had it coming to them. I think you've been out in the sun too long. You make a claim against Hrolf and then use a quote which has nothing to do with it. This should be a thread about the attack not about you. You're the Willo of General Talk. They're reporting the man who died wasn't hit by the van but was already receiving medical treatment. I wonder what the hell happened..? You fed me, you bred me, I'll remember your name.
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Worthing 19 Jun 17 10.46am

Originally posted by nickgusset

We know what you meant.
Next you'll be joining other Tommy Robinson acolytes I've seen saying the victims had it coming to them.

I think you've been out in the sun too long.
You make a claim against Hrolf and then use a quote which has nothing to do with it.

This should be a thread about the attack not about you.
You're the Willo of General Talk.

They're reporting the man who died wasn't hit by the van but was already receiving medical treatment.
I wonder what the hell happened..?

You fed me, you bred me, I'll remember your name.

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Kermit8 Hevon 19 Jun 17 10.48am
Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle Listening to the news this morning and hearing various Muslims interviewed, all seem to have adopted an attitude of persecution, complaining that Muslims are being increasingly targeted. I would love one of the TV interviewers to have the balls to ask them why they think that is? Surely it has nothing to do with the once-a-month horrific Islamic terror attacks that mainstream society has had to endure over the past 4/5 years. This it appears seems to have been completely forgotten. If Muslims wish to generalize (saying that they are being persecuted) then they should have the foresight to realise that attacks like today's are almost certainly brought about by previous attacks which were perpetrated by other Muslims. Unfortunately and of course wrongly, its cause and effect. If they did answer and were honest it would just inflame the situation further. '..because dumb fvcktards can't distinguish between the 99.6% of the world's muslims, the seculars, the Shias, Ismailis, Sufis and all the other groups that don't follow the same warped, extremist and violent interpretation that IS and its allies do and think one muslim is exactly the same as the next muslim' Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 19 Jun 17 10.48am

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Listening to the news this morning and hearing various Muslims interviewed, all seem to have adopted an attitude of persecution, complaining that Muslims are being increasingly targeted.

I would love one of the TV interviewers to have the balls to ask them why they think that is? Surely it has nothing to do with the once-a-month horrific Islamic terror attacks that mainstream society has had to endure over the past 4/5 years. This it appears seems to have been completely forgotten.

If Muslims wish to generalize (saying that they are being persecuted) then they should have the foresight to realise that attacks like today's are almost certainly brought about by previous attacks which were perpetrated by other Muslims. Unfortunately and of course wrongly, its cause and effect.

If they did answer and were honest it would just inflame the situation further.

'..because dumb fvcktards can't distinguish between the 99.6% of the world's muslims, the seculars, the Shias, Ismailis, Sufis and all the other groups that don't follow the same warped, extremist and violent interpretation that IS and its allies do and think one muslim is exactly the same as the next muslim'

Big chest and massive boobs

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jamiemartin721 Reading 19 Jun 17 10.54am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Of course it's because people associate terrorist attacks in Britain with Islam. After all, the problem didn't exist before thousands of Muslims came here. The situation is far more complex of course but people are generally not complex and they want to make simple associations. It is the same simplicity of mind that allows people to waste their whole lives worshiping sky fairies or blowing themselves up to go to heaven. It is precisely because most people are not too bright that those who are and in government should make good decisions on their behalf. That hasn't happened and here we are. The problem didn't exist before 2001 at all, and barely before 2003. To just blame immigration is a fallacy, and myopic. Because the culprits here are very complicated indeed, involving geo-political machinations of a number of different foreign powers, the unstable nature of the middle east, UK foreign policy and the utilisation of simplistic sound byte politics used irresponsibly within the media to reduce such arguments down to pandering to dumb fks levels. These kind of actions, are the actions of people who have nothing to offer society but hate, and have no place in a civilised society. Like those who claim attacks in the name of Islam, these people are those who have failed to understand that their failures in life and the alienation, are their own fault. Fk em all. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 19 Jun 17 10.54am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

It is precisely because most people are not too bright that those who are and in government should make good decisions on their behalf. That hasn't happened and here we are.

The problem didn't exist before 2001 at all, and barely before 2003. To just blame immigration is a fallacy, and myopic. Because the culprits here are very complicated indeed, involving geo-political machinations of a number of different foreign powers, the unstable nature of the middle east, UK foreign policy and the utilisation of simplistic sound byte politics used irresponsibly within the media to reduce such arguments down to pandering to dumb f**ks levels.

These kind of actions, are the actions of people who have nothing to offer society but hate, and have no place in a civilised society. Like those who claim attacks in the name of Islam, these people are those who have failed to understand that their failures in life and the alienation, are their own fault.

F**k em all.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 19 Jun 17 10.55am
I would like to caveat my observation with I absolutely and unequivocally denounce the attack on innocent people going about their worship,the same as I do with the cowardly arseholes that blew women and children to bits in Manchester. Both different cheeks of the same s***ty arsehole. However what I find a bit trite, is the Muslim Council of Great Britain's immediate and very swift statement that calls for protection by police at Mosques' etc to prevent attacks on Muslims. Not quite so pro active when the deaths are related to their own brand of religious pr1cks. Edited by dannyh (19 Jun 2017 10.56am) "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 19 Jun 17 10.55am

I would like to caveat my observation with I absolutely and unequivocally denounce the attack on innocent people going about their worship,the same as I do with the cowardly arseholes that blew women and children to bits in Manchester. Both different cheeks of the same s***ty arsehole.

However what I find a bit trite, is the Muslim Council of Great Britain's immediate and very swift statement that calls for protection by police at Mosques' etc to prevent attacks on Muslims.

Not quite so pro active when the deaths are related to their own brand of religious pr1cks.

Edited by dannyh (19 Jun 2017 10.56am)

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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