One thing, attributing the rise in sea temperature to human activity seems a bit spurious considering we've no idea how many volcanoes are on the sea floor.

91 new ones were announced to have been discovered in the Antarctic this year.

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We are responsible for pollution but not global warming. This earth has been warming up then cooling way before man set foot on it. One volcanic eruption can do more damage to the worlds climate than we ever can.

I was at a conference on Monday where a speaker from the energy analyst Wood MacKenzie showed their latest projections of the growth in demand for coal, oil, gas and renewables. Gas had the steepest growth incline and coal the lowest - nearly flat, in fact.

Interestingly, she suggested that the bridge to renewables that gas is expected to be, may be just a "footbridge". The cost of renewable technology - notably wind and solar - is reducing faster than previously projected while the efficiency of these technologies is increasing faster than projected. At the same time, battery technology - required to make solar feasible as a base load source - is following the same pattern. As a result, many emerging economies may skip gas and invest their infrastructure money in renewables directly.

Energy demand will, of course, grow across the globe, so it's not like they'll be shuttering coal-fired power plants like their Blockbuster videos. But as the other sectors grow around coal's flat line, it will become an ever-shrinking piece of the pie chart.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

Those at the top never lead. They only do the right thing when they are forced to do so by dint of overwhelming public outcry.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

So it's ok for the Koch Brothers to profit from the oil and gas business, while influencing elections by pouring money into the campaign coffers of the candidates who best serve the interests of their business. But when Al Gore makes a for-profit documentary warning about the immediate dangers of global warming, he's a hypocrite?

You've been listening to too many climate deniers' talking points. This being perhaps the weakest one.

It's amazing how conservatives preach interminably about how the free market can solve everything, and then when it moves in a way they don't like they bleat about hypocrisy.

Edited by Ray in Houston (20 Sep 2017 9.35pm)

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

The hypocrisy of the elites who preach down about climate change while themselves having a massive energy footprint is never ending.

You are entirely right to pinpoint that technology is the only way that this problem will be tackled.

All the sanctimonious hand wringing that the virtue signalers do about being green....for most of them it always appears to apply to others and not themselves.

Those who actually live their principles I say nothing against....But I think the answer to this question can only be technology......Without population control and stopping third world development any other suggestion is just ridiculously ineffective.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Sep 2017 10.08pm)

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