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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 07 May 17 2.39pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by MrCParrot

To be fairer I would say unproven at this level. I want to see them get a chance next season. Both have talent its a case of them proving it when they get a chance. Same with Lapado. If we don't give them a chance then why bother at all with young players.

Parrot

They've already had chances whilst on loan and neither have been remarkable. They just haven't shown the spark of a Zaha, Clyne or even a Williams. If they were still below the age limit, then perhaps they could occasionally feature but they're both way below the standard required in a Premiership squad. Next season, quality in depth is going to be essential and, IMO, it's far too risky to include them. At this level, we need Premiership quality players across the whole squad.

 


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whitehorselane Flag 07 May 17 2.43pm

Originally posted by MrCParrot

To be fairer I would say unproven at this level. I want to see them get a chance next season. Both have talent its a case of them proving it when they get a chance. Same with Lapado. If we don't give them a chance then why bother at all with young players.

Parrot

Agree with Parrot. They have got to a better option than Remy. Got to develope our youngsters.

Cannot judge players until they've been given the opportunity

 

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Pierre Flag Purley 07 May 17 2.50pm Send a Private Message to Pierre Add Pierre as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

We had a lot of injuries this season, but it's clearly shown the lack of quality in the squad. A lot of fans thought this is the best squad we assembled. We can all blame pardew, he is part of the problem but the likes of puncheon, Delaney and many others are not up to prem anymore. If I was big Sam I would only keep Zaha,Benteke, Townsend and cabaye. The rest have massively let us down this season. Where's the James mcarthur of 2016. Even luka not as good as we first thought. It a big summer ahead to rectify a very poor squad. It proves that Sam doesn't trust the subs on the bench.

Your thoughts on our squad

How do propose to get around EUFA's FFP rules by executing this plan of action?

 

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Painter Flag Croydon 07 May 17 2.58pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I just hope that finally the chairman will realise tht you can't do things on the cheap.

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You are talking a load of crap. A good scouting network to find new players is what's needed, not just splashing out cash on overpriced players with greedy agents.
It is impossible to clear out a squad of players, they are on contracts, if nobody is going to offer to buy them, your stuck with them. This is the problem every new manager has, they inherit players they don't want. As a club we cant afford to just ignore them, we have to try and get the best out of them and get them playing.
I think far to many posters on here think the Football Manager game is reality.

 

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Mr_Gristle Flag In the land of Whelk Eaters 07 May 17 2.58pm Send a Private Message to Mr_Gristle Add Mr_Gristle as a friend

Originally posted by tonymikejoe


Goalkeeper; Left-footed centre-half and a Number 10 to support the centre-forward.

Throw in another lower-prem standard centre half to give us injury / tiredness cover, plus a starting-quality right back. Add one more midfielder of a standard higher than the current level of Punch.

This season has shown up how terribly thin our squad actually is and how we really do need 15-18 Prem standard players rather than hoping to get by with perhaps 8 or 9 (at the start of the season).

Edited by Mr_Gristle (07 May 2017 2.58pm)

Edited by Mr_Gristle (07 May 2017 2.59pm)

 


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Mr_Gristle Flag In the land of Whelk Eaters 07 May 17 2.59pm Send a Private Message to Mr_Gristle Add Mr_Gristle as a friend

Must stop quoting instead of editing.


Edited by Mr_Gristle (07 May 2017 2.59pm)

 


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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 07 May 17 3.28pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by whitehorselane

Agree with Parrot. They have got to a better option than Remy. Got to develope our youngsters.

Cannot judge players until they've been given the opportunity

The judgement is already in. They haven't particularly shone whilst on loan. No grounds whatsoever to believe they'd perform any better in the Premiership. If either Boateng or Kaikai showed the promise to perform at the highest level, they'd have demonstrated it by now.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 May 17 3.52pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I just hope that finally the chairman will realise tht you can't do things on the cheap.

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You are talking a load of crap. A good scouting network to find new players is what's needed, not just splashing out cash on overpriced players with greedy agents.
It is impossible to clear out a squad of players, they are on contracts, if nobody is going to offer to buy them, your stuck with them. This is the problem every new manager has, they inherit players they don't want. As a club we cant afford to just ignore them, we have to try and get the best out of them and get them playing.
I think far to many posters on here think the Football Manager game is reality.

I've never played football manager, but I have seen our chairman splash ridiculous money on average players this winter because we failed to spend enough in the Summer when better players are available. If we have average players to offload on contracts it's because we signed them in the first place. Our record on transfers has been mixed to say the least and a failure to spend big in the summer might yet cost us our place in the Premier League. The current ownership has had plenty of time to build a good scouting network and like all owners coming from other business, they need several years to understand how football works.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 May 17 3.59pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by tonymikejoe


Parish will be choking on his champagne if he reads this.

This season we splashed a staggering £30m on Benteke, whose 14 goals give us a chance of staying up.

We also did £13m on an England international (Andros) and during the January window Parish spent another £30m-odd.

As a club we have thrown absolutely mental money at it.

We actually spent less than 10 million net in transfer fees in the Summer and then had to splash 40 million in panic buys in January.
Does that make sense to you?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (07 May 2017 7.35pm)

 

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slubglurge Flag welling 07 May 17 5.33pm Send a Private Message to slubglurge Add slubglurge as a friend

We need another forward with CB and Connor. MUST buy a number 10 and bench Punch. A player like Juan Mata would be great. Luka and Cabaye have been great but we need a back up. Macca not good enough. Wardy not good enough too. Icing on cake would be Sakho, Tomkins was starting to look the part beside him. If Pape returns he could push PVA and Schlupp at LB

 

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ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 07 May 17 8.39pm Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

The front 3, Luka and Yoyo, three of the back four and Henessey are all good to great - for a top first XI just Punch and Ward need to be upgraded. The problem isn't the team it's the squad - one or two injuries in key places and we really suffer - Kelly hasn't been a bad squad player, but not as good as Hangeland was - you CAN make shrewd value aquistions, but our second XI has all this Chungy, Mutchy, Sako-ey championship quality to it - it'll only take a couple of signings to get the first XI competitive, but it's the back-up players and the competition for places that probably guarantee the mid table security we've lacked in each of our four prem campaigns. The front-line part of the squad has undoubtedly progressed during our time in the prem, remember Gabbidon, Moxey, O'Keefe and KG played a lot of games in our first season back - they wouldn't get a sniff today. But we still need to add regularly in the windows - we'll have Conor and Benteke next season, so a striker isn't first priority, a young winger to keep Andros and Wilf up to their game, two proper midfielders, a right back and a centre back (hopefully but unlikely Sakho). And a keeper. That's a miniumum of five prob more like six to keep us competitive. We'd be carrying Punch and Ward next season and definitely have to move on there. Mind you I've got this strange feeling Puncheon might be Big Sam's Kevin Nolan.

 

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Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 07 May 17 9.37pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

What do people think the budget is? I think we will have to receive more than we spend because we pushed the boat out in Jan. (I know some will disagree and would sincerely love to hear why). I'd happily see the back of Schlupp if we could get anywhere near the 11m or so we reportedly paid for him.

 


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