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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 24 Apr 17 9.34am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
I think if our player was Grujic and got a 'Red', HOL would be criticising the referee. And?
Your obsession with defending every bungling referee and every bad/wrong/incompetent decision they make continues to mystify me.
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Elpis In a pub 24 Apr 17 9.39am | |
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It was a straight red challenge ,the guy should thank his lucky stars that he was booked which stops any retrospective action from the FA .
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topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 24 Apr 17 10.31am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
I think if our player was Grujic and got a 'Red', HOL would be criticising the referee. I don't think so. If one of our players did that tackle, we would be criticising him for such a reckless tackle. I'm amazed that it didn't get shown on MOTD when they spent so much time discussing Liverpool not getting a penalty (which they should have). The FA can still act retrospectively, just because a yellow was shown doesn't stop them. However they wont.
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SeagullHunter Reading 24 Apr 17 11.11am | |
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Originally posted by topcat
I don't think so. If one of our players did that tackle, we would be criticising him for such a reckless tackle. I'm amazed that it didn't get shown on MOTD when they spent so much time discussing Liverpool not getting a penalty (which they should have). The FA can still act retrospectively, just because a yellow was shown doesn't stop them. However they wont. 'which they should have' - really? The referee allowed play to go on, in a goalscoring opportunity which they didnt take. You can't have the best of both worlds. If a referee plays advantage and the allotted time is up, he shouldn't bring the play back.
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topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 24 Apr 17 11.21am | |
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Originally posted by SeagullHunter
'which they should have' - really? The referee allowed play to go on, in a goalscoring opportunity which they didnt take. You can't have the best of both worlds. If a referee plays advantage and the allotted time is up, he shouldn't bring the play back. That's what I think, yes, and it's what I would have wanted had it been the other way around. It's not completely black and white though as it didn't look like a foul (to me) in real time. It's only when it is replayed that you see that he was a should have resulted in a penalty. I'm certainly not complaining, there have been loads of penalty decisions not given to us. Some highlighted on MOTD but most not.
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sa_eagle Just outside Cape Town 24 Apr 17 11.22am | |
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Originally posted by Jamesrichards8
Six minutes added time was criminal too Klopp was being given some 'fergie time'.
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chateauferret 24 Apr 17 11.24am | |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
And?
Your obsession with defending every bungling referee and every bad/wrong/incompetent decision they make continues to mystify me. I'm getting pretty fed up with the straight red assaults on our players that go unpunished or result in only a booking. Olsson for Sunderland already had a yellow when he did his and still didn't walk. Rojo, God knows how many times and he's currently enjoying a dose of his own medicine. And that one yesterday was as blatant and obvious a straight red card as you could ever expect to see. Stupid, reckless, dangerous challenge with his foot up and studs out and about 200 years late and done on purpose because he knew Tomkinds had won the ball fairly. Doing that on purpose to a player and putting him out for a whole lot of matches is just disgusting and even a sending-off and a three-match ban is lenient: Tomkins could easily miss more than three matches. The ref made his decision instantly without thinking about it, consulting the other officials, or knowing what damage had been done. That's plain incompetence, if it isn't bias, and if people acted like this anywhere else they'd be up in front of the beak on charges under the Health and Safety at Work Act. But because it's Liverpool we carry on as if nothing had happened. Unless you're James Tomkins, that is.
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chateauferret 24 Apr 17 11.25am | |
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Originally posted by sa_eagle
Klopp was being given some 'fergie time'. At least two of them were to reward Liverpool for trying to take Tomkins' foot off.
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chateauferret 24 Apr 17 11.28am | |
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Originally posted by topcat
That's what I think, yes, and it's what I would have wanted had it been the other way around. It's not completely black and white though as it didn't look like a foul (to me) in real time. It's only when it is replayed that you see that he was a should have resulted in a penalty. I'm certainly not complaining, there have been loads of penalty decisions not given to us. Some highlighted on MOTD but most not. Well, now if the ref is being consistent then if that was a pen so was the Benteke one. More contact on Benteke than on Coutinho. Giving both would have been consistent. Not giving either is consistent too. But if he gives the Coutinho pen he has to give ours. Booking Benteke for a "dive" was f***ing preposterous. If you're going to allow a certain level of contact before you blow the whistle it follows that not all tumbles in the box are either a) penalties or b) simulation.
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PZ Eagle Penzance 24 Apr 17 11.31am | |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
I'm getting pretty fed up with the straight red assaults on our players that go unpunished or result in only a booking. Olsson for Sunderland already had a yellow when he did his and still didn't walk. Rojo, God knows how many times and he's currently enjoying a dose of his own medicine. And that one yesterday was as blatant and obvious a straight red card as you could ever expect to see. Stupid, reckless, dangerous challenge with his foot up and studs out and about 200 years late and done on purpose because he knew Tomkinds had won the ball fairly. Doing that on purpose to a player and putting him out for a whole lot of matches is just disgusting and even a sending-off and a three-match ban is lenient: Tomkins could easily miss more than three matches. The ref made his decision instantly without thinking about it, consulting the other officials, or knowing what damage had been done. That's plain incompetence, if it isn't bias, and if people acted like this anywhere else they'd be up in front of the beak on charges under the Health and Safety at Work Act. But because it's Liverpool we carry on as if nothing had happened. Unless you're James Tomkins, that is. Quite agree with you cf but what we are forgetting is that Rojo and Grujic play for BIG clubs and, as such, have to break an opposing players leg before warranting a red card!!
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Adamoc123 Ennis 24 Apr 17 11.34am | |
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Had he gone down he'd have got the penalty and rightly so, luckily for us his will to continue gave them the advantage which they wasted. As for the tckle on Tomkins, absolutely horrendous! thought when i saw it that was his season over.
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Red Eagle Crawley 24 Apr 17 11.38am | |
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Wow! It's the first incident on Ref Watch!! They waffled around it because no one on commentary saw how nasty it was until after the replay. Well there were a few of us who saw it straightaway. At least they featured it.
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