I'd hope Sir Sam would stay even is we went down (got to give Rafa respect for staying at toons given his pedigree BTW). For me, Sam has done enough to prove himself with our very difficut last few games. I hope and expect we don't go down, but if we do, we could easily do a heck of a lot worse than keeping Sir Sam.

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As previously alluded to - Sam will stay as he has potentially the best squad he has ever managed. If we able to keep our best players and then buy two or three more he will be made up. Have a summer fire sale and he may then have second thoughts!
Our and his best years are - hopefully -just round the corner

Not really bothered what I sound like to you 'fella', plastic or otherwise. I've probably been supporting Palace since you were in nappies (or longer) but unlike yourself that wants to use words like 'plastic' I'm not in the 'I'm a better fan that you club'. its drivel.
Coming back to your actual post you are finding it very difficult to differentiate between now and the past. In the 1970s Leeds Untited weren't a big club, they were huge. A monster. The Don Revie/Billy Bremner days will always be remembered and rightly so. Just as the Clough days at Forest are and even the Stanley Mathews days going back even further.
But history does not make you a big club. If it did Notts County, Burnley, Preston and Wolves would be the biggest clubs in the world. They have been around longer than anyone else therefore have more history than any of us.
Right here and right now Leeds are not even close to being a big club. They are not even in a play off position in the 2nd tier of English football. You talk about 'IF' we were in the bottom 3 I would not have this opinion. But we are not so what are you going on about? We'll survive this season and embark on a 5th season in the top division. Leeds might come up this year (doubtful). If they did they might stay up (extremely doubtful) and then we may see them strengthen to the point where they establish themselves which would take a couple more years. Only then would they be close to where we are at right now. It really isn't rocket science.
If you base how big a club is on their potential and how many seats they would potentially fill in the top division then with your logic Leeds, Forest, Sheffield Wednesday are all bigger clubs than Chelsea that get gates of 'only' 40,000 a week
So Leeds have won a few trophies in their history. So what. Hasn't kept them in the top division has it.

Nappies!!! You're a funny one eh! I doubt it as you'd have to be typing this with the aid of a home help!

Let's hope you're right about us staying up as this season isn't over yet ... and we're a couple of bad results away from being right down in the mire again! But, I admire your confidence ..

Yeah - I see ya point to some degree but my point is, about losing Sam to someone else and I used Leeds loosely. Saying they're not a big club is madness tho!

Let's agree to disagree as I'm finding you a bit boring/tedious now 'fella'

What Leeds are, and are probably the most apt club outside The Prem to be called this, is a sleeping giant.

Maybe if they are still languishing 30 years from now and most of us who remember them from the 70's and 90's have departed this mortal coil then they can be classed the same as the Prestons, Huddersfields, etc.

They got 32,000 to go 7th in The Champ on Saturday. Truth is if they had a very rich investor tomorrow they would be in The Prem averaging 40,000 within two years and if bigger stands were built 50,000 within three to four.

A sleeping giant indeed. We have never been called that outside the Prem.

They are a bigger club than us history and fan base and world recognition wise but, as it stands, we are richer and higher up.

You'll be saying Bournemouth are bigger than them next

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Yep, valid points and I hear what you're saying. The whole thread is hyerthetical but if Leeds do come up via the play offs - which they could do as that's exactly how we got promoted a few years back - then their profile will be raised again very quickly. Primarily because of their history and then fan base which is potentially massive. They get the wind behind their sales - which can be done without spending silly money - due to momentum, teamwork & belief then their appeal will improve.

As someone else just said, it's like saying Bournemouth are a bigger club than Leeds! They're not ... for numerous reasons. It just happens that their league position and 'relative' finances are. But as we know, being in the Prem changes that dramatically. In the same way our reality will be dramatically changed if we were relegated ... which is a possibility, especially with our run in.