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YT Oxford 06 Apr 17 8.11pm
Originally posted by robdave2k Huh. It's not anti-wealth. The point is it's skiing, it's not really educational is it but it's authorised by the school so it must be ok. Yet when parents do that it's negligent. The point I'm making is if the school wanted to give them an "educational week away" then I might suggest the Breacon Beacons, in December, learning to catch your own food to survive would be educational in the event of the apocalypse. But that involves a cold tent and is probably less appealing. If the child's attendance is above 90% generally I would trust the parents to know the child and make the right call. Edited by robdave2k (06 Apr 2017 5.53pm) OK thanks for taking the time to expand your point. I just didn't get the mention of haves and have nots. I do take issue with the guy in the story's 90% as a threshold. That's one day a fortnight off school. Where I work that would be classed as 'part time'! Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 06 Apr 17 8.11pm

Originally posted by robdave2k

Huh.

It's not anti-wealth. The point is it's skiing, it's not really educational is it but it's authorised by the school so it must be ok.

Yet when parents do that it's negligent.

The point I'm making is if the school wanted to give them an "educational week away" then I might suggest the Breacon Beacons, in December, learning to catch your own food to survive would be educational in the event of the apocalypse. But that involves a cold tent and is probably less appealing.

If the child's attendance is above 90% generally I would trust the parents to know the child and make the right call.

Edited by robdave2k (06 Apr 2017 5.53pm)

OK thanks for taking the time to expand your point. I just didn't get the mention of haves and have nots. I do take issue with the guy in the story's 90% as a threshold. That's one day a fortnight off school. Where I work that would be classed as 'part time'!

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Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 06 Apr 17 8.25pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly ^^ bollox ^^ you don't have a clue. I feel for your kids, if you have any class teams become dissolved, and team projects fail. stoopid parents breed stoopid kids. and the rest of society (childless or not) pays the cost. Next thing is we'll need parenting classes. And who'll pay for that ? some parents should be sterilised at birth, Edited by Forest Hillbilly (06 Apr 2017 6.49pm) Qualified, former, teacher chiming in: Whilst I agree that some kids are cursed with terrible parents, I'd argue that school leaderships' insistence on attendance has more to do with the schools' chances of hitting performance targets than an overwhelmingly altruistic desire to do the right thing for the kids. Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)
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In the land of Whelk Eaters 06 Apr 17 8.25pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

^^ bollox ^^ you don't have a clue. I feel for your kids, if you have any

class teams become dissolved, and team projects fail.

stoopid parents breed stoopid kids. and the rest of society (childless or not) pays the cost.

Next thing is we'll need parenting classes. And who'll pay for that ?

some parents should be sterilised at birth,

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (06 Apr 2017 6.49pm)

Qualified, former, teacher chiming in:

Whilst I agree that some kids are cursed with terrible parents, I'd argue that school leaderships' insistence on attendance has more to do with the schools' chances of hitting performance targets than an overwhelmingly altruistic desire to do the right thing for the kids.

Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

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Michaelawt85 Bexley 06 Apr 17 8.33pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt So, in summary.... if you take your kids to Disneyland in term time, you get arrested. If you take your daughter to Somalia for a bit of FGM, you get a diversity award. And that ladies and gents is the difference between Minnie mouse and a mutilated minnie When I was a young girl my Mother said to me.. You listen here kid you're CPFC
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Bexley 06 Apr 17 8.33pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

So, in summary.... if you take your kids to Disneyland in term time, you get arrested. If you take your daughter to Somalia for a bit of FGM, you get a diversity award.

And that ladies and gents is the difference between Minnie mouse and a mutilated minnie

When I was a young girl my Mother said to me.. You listen here kid you're CPFC

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Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 06 Apr 17 8.37pm
Originally posted by Michaelawt85 And that ladies and gents is the difference between Minnie mouse and a mutilated minnie Blimey - I haven't heard minnie since 197something! Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)
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In the land of Whelk Eaters 06 Apr 17 8.37pm

Originally posted by Michaelawt85

And that ladies and gents is the difference between Minnie mouse and a mutilated minnie

Blimey - I haven't heard minnie since 197something!

Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

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Direwolf Lincoln 06 Apr 17 8.38pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly ^^ bollox ^^ you don't have a clue. I feel for your kids, if you have any class teams become dissolved, and team projects fail. stoopid parents breed stoopid kids. and the rest of society (childless or not) pays the cost. Next thing is we'll need parenting classes. And who'll pay for that ? some parents should be sterilised at birth, Edited by Forest Hillbilly (06 Apr 2017 6.49pm) If you didn't have all this trendy bollox about kids needing to work in teams and do projects together so that the thick kids look like they have done something the absence of one kid would not matter a jot.
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Direwolf

Lincoln 06 Apr 17 8.38pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

^^ bollox ^^ you don't have a clue. I feel for your kids, if you have any

class teams become dissolved, and team projects fail.

stoopid parents breed stoopid kids. and the rest of society (childless or not) pays the cost.

Next thing is we'll need parenting classes. And who'll pay for that ?

some parents should be sterilised at birth,

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (06 Apr 2017 6.49pm)

If you didn't have all this trendy bollox about kids needing to work in teams and do projects together so that the thick kids look like they have done something the absence of one kid would not matter a jot.

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HeathMan Purley 06 Apr 17 8.44pm
So, in summary.... if you take your kids to Disneyland in term time, you get arrested. If you take your daughter to Somalia for a bit of FGM, you get a diversity award. Education is about stretching children. Disneyland is an experience which requires little input. On the other hand the daughter of Somalian Doctor Parents, wanting to follow in their footsteps, who has been accepted for medical school would have to be naughty, as no school would allow her to be away in term time assisting them to administer FGM.
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Purley 06 Apr 17 8.44pm

So, in summary.... if you take your kids to Disneyland in term time, you get arrested. If you take your daughter to Somalia for a bit of FGM, you get a diversity award.

Education is about stretching children. Disneyland is an experience which requires little input. On the other hand the daughter of Somalian Doctor Parents, wanting to follow in their footsteps, who has been accepted for medical school would have to be naughty, as no school would allow her to be away in term time assisting them to administer FGM.

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Painter Croydon 06 Apr 17 8.59pm
Simple solution, just cancel their child benefit and require a refund of all benefit paid since the birth of the child. It might make them think twice. We are paying for their child's education and they think they can take the piss. Yes I do have children.
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Painter

Croydon 06 Apr 17 8.59pm

Simple solution, just cancel their child benefit and require a refund of all benefit paid since the birth of the child.
It might make them think twice. We are paying for their child's education and they think they can take the piss.
Yes I do have children.

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matt_himself Matataland 06 Apr 17 9.03pm
Why the f*** can't people do what they are told to do? "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 06 Apr 17 9.03pm

Why the f*** can't people do what they are told to do?

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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matthau South Croydon 06 Apr 17 9.06pm
Originally posted by matt_himself Why the f*** can't people do what they are told to do? sheep
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matthau

South Croydon 06 Apr 17 9.06pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Why the f*** can't people do what they are told to do?

sheep

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 06 Apr 17 9.08pm
Originally posted by HeathMan So, in summary.... if you take your kids to Disneyland in term time, you get arrested. If you take your daughter to Somalia for a bit of FGM, you get a diversity award. Education is about stretching children. Disneyland is an experience which requires little input. On the other hand the daughter of Somalian Doctor Parents, wanting to follow in their footsteps, who has been accepted for medical school would have to be naughty, as no school would allow her to be away in term time assisting them to administer FGM. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 06 Apr 17 9.08pm

Originally posted by HeathMan

So, in summary.... if you take your kids to Disneyland in term time, you get arrested. If you take your daughter to Somalia for a bit of FGM, you get a diversity award.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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martin2412 Living The Dream 06 Apr 17 9.42pm
Originally posted by robdave2k Pencils and paper so they don't miss out on "double colouring in" It's the parent's call on this one. Take them out before GCSE's and that would be utterly mental, but I can't see the harm in 2 weeks when the girl has an over 90% attendance ratio. Also a local comprehensive to here is running a skiing trip for the year 8 kids. That's one for the have and the have nots. That's educational how? It's a town where white or red wine with dinner means would you like Lambrini or Cherry Lambrini with your chips -so the ability to ski isn't going to be high on the list of things needed to survive in life. If it is that important not to miss schooling then do it over half term - or are the prices too high? The reason it's not done in half term is because it needs teachers to supervise the kids, and none of them would be interested in doing that in their own time. They prefer to have a jolly during working hours. Many teachers wouldn't have given a toss about kids missing school before league tables started. Now they're accountable it's got important all of a sudden. Many teachers have never been out of school, therefore they see school as the be all and end all to justify their existence. Having said all that, I always make sure I take my holidays during term time because I don't want a load of screaming brats running around ruining my holiday, whilst listening to their gobs***e mothers shouting at them.
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Living The Dream 06 Apr 17 9.42pm

Originally posted by robdave2k

Pencils and paper so they don't miss out on "double colouring in"

It's the parent's call on this one. Take them out before GCSE's and that would be utterly mental, but I can't see the harm in 2 weeks when the girl has an over 90% attendance ratio.

Also a local comprehensive to here is running a skiing trip for the year 8 kids. That's one for the have and the have nots. That's educational how? It's a town where white or red wine with dinner means would you like Lambrini or Cherry Lambrini with your chips -so the ability to ski isn't going to be high on the list of things needed to survive in life. If it is that important not to miss schooling then do it over half term - or are the prices too high?

The reason it's not done in half term is because it needs teachers to supervise the kids, and none of them would be interested in doing that in their own time. They prefer to have a jolly during working hours.

Many teachers wouldn't have given a toss about kids missing school before league tables started. Now they're accountable it's got important all of a sudden.

Many teachers have never been out of school, therefore they see school as the be all and end all to justify their existence.

Having said all that, I always make sure I take my holidays during term time because I don't want a load of screaming brats running around ruining my holiday, whilst listening to their gobs***e mothers shouting at them.

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Michaelawt85 Bexley 06 Apr 17 10.00pm
Originally posted by Mr_Gristle Blimey - I haven't heard minnie since 197something! Heard or seen? When I was a young girl my Mother said to me.. You listen here kid you're CPFC
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Michaelawt85

Bexley 06 Apr 17 10.00pm

Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

Blimey - I haven't heard minnie since 197something!

Heard or seen?

When I was a young girl my Mother said to me.. You listen here kid you're CPFC

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