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Dan89 Se25 26 Mar 17 7.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Truly amazing! They all need upgrading dann lost his place. There's question over puncheon and ward place all season.
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coulsdoneagle London 26 Mar 17 7.18pm | |
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Originally posted by Dan89
Whether that the case. Does that justify speroni being a prem number 1 in 2017. You are ridiculous. Completely ignoring what people are saying. No one is suggesting Speroni is the first name on the sheet. People are saying he is a cheap Palace legend with a great work ethic who is capable and happy as a number three, much like Steve Harper has been. There will be few no. 3s with as much experience or ability. For the amount it costs and the benefits he brings to the squad it makes no sense to replace him as a 3rd choice. Same with Damo as 4th Choice CB. Why gut the dressing room, these are huge characters and managing a squad is more than just about getting the best 11 a club can afford. You didn't say a goalkeeper like Hart or Begovic either, you said you wanted 'Begovic or Hart as number 1'
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Dan89 Se25 26 Mar 17 7.35pm | |
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Originally posted by coulsdoneagle
You are ridiculous. Completely ignoring what people are saying. No one is suggesting Speroni is the first name on the sheet. People are saying he is a cheap Palace legend with a great work ethic who is capable and happy as a number three, much like Steve Harper has been. There will be few no. 3s with as much experience or ability. For the amount it costs and the benefits he brings to the squad it makes no sense to replace him as a 3rd choice. Same with Damo as 4th Choice CB. Why gut the dressing room, these are huge characters and managing a squad is more than just about getting the best 11 a club can afford. You didn't say a goalkeeper like Hart or Begovic either, you said you wanted 'Begovic or Hart as number 1'[/quote
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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 26 Mar 17 7.36pm | |
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Originally posted by Dan89
So according to you we offer speroni a new deal because of saves he made in 2015. That's was 2 half years ago. Football not a charity case it's a business. Speroni 37 and he had one very good season in the prem. The rest of his best years were in the championship. If you was in charge we'd still have ramage,Murray and jedinak. Get in the real world. You stand still in football. You go backwards
What I stated was that to say a player is no good due to the fact he was not capped by Argentina is truly amazing!
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coulsdoneagle London 26 Mar 17 11.35pm | |
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Originally posted by Dan89
Originally posted by coulsdoneagle
You are ridiculous. Completely ignoring what people are saying. No one is suggesting Speroni is the first name on the sheet. People are saying he is a cheap Palace legend with a great work ethic who is capable and happy as a number three, much like Steve Harper has been. There will be few no. 3s with as much experience or ability. For the amount it costs and the benefits he brings to the squad it makes no sense to replace him as a 3rd choice. Same with Damo as 4th Choice CB. Why gut the dressing room, these are huge characters and managing a squad is more than just about getting the best 11 a club can afford. You didn't say a goalkeeper like Hart or Begovic either, you said you wanted 'Begovic or Hart as number 1'[/quote When have I ever said that we don't sign Gibson or Begovic? It's not going to be a choice between Begovic and Speroni, or Damo and Gibson. We need a new CB to cover for Sakho when he leaves, and we need a reserve CB who won't play but is good enough for cover should we get 2 injuries. Begovic or Hart or whatever other name you want to pull out of thin air are the types of players who will want to play first team games or will leave, they are also unlike Jules, on enormous wages. Young keepers need to play to get better so having a young keeper as 3rd choice is pointless. Same goes with a reserve CB. As squad players, the benefits (financial, team spirit and proven at this level) to keeping them around outweigh the cons. You don't seem to comprehend, no one is suggesting they are first teamers but they are good enough to make the 25, and probably happy to play a cover role. I think it's the first team and bench that needs an upgrade. Players like Hennessy and Ward are not good enough and Ledley, Sako, Campbell and Lee etc are also not good enough and they all probably want to play at this stage on their career and they are on quite large wages as we signed them in the PL. They are the problems in the squad.
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Dan89 Se25 27 Mar 17 9.07am | |
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Originally posted by coulsdoneagle
When have I ever said that we don't sign Gibson or Begovic? It's not going to be a choice between Begovic and Speroni, or Damo and Gibson. We need a new CB to cover for Sakho when he leaves, and we need a reserve CB who won't play but is good enough for cover should we get 2 injuries. Begovic or Hart or whatever other name you want to pull out of thin air are the types of players who will want to play first team games or will leave, they are also unlike Jules, on enormous wages. Young keepers need to play to get better so having a young keeper as 3rd choice is pointless. Same goes with a reserve CB. As squad players, the benefits (financial, team spirit and proven at this level) to keeping them around outweigh the cons. You don't seem to comprehend, no one is suggesting they are first teamers but they are good enough to make the 25, and probably happy to play a cover role. I think it's the first team and bench that needs an upgrade. Players like Hennessy and Ward are not good enough and Ledley, Sako, Campbell and Lee etc are also not good enough and they all probably want to play at this stage on their career and they are on quite large wages as we signed them in the PL. They are the problems in the squad. . It's time we starting a pathway for our young players a route in the first team(if good enough). For me this is the weakest squad, we had since promotion. In terms of strength in depth. Players like Ledley,Kelly,Campbell,lee,mutch and even Delaney are championship players. What's the point in keeping players that nowhere good enough for the first team like Delaney if we're in the prem. The average age of the squad is 28.4 years old. Which will increase keeping the likes of Delaney and speroni. talksport.com/football/every-premier-league-squads-average-age-ranked-oldest-youngest-170322232395?p=4
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comeonyoueagles20 caterham 27 Mar 17 11.27am | |
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Originally posted by Dan89
. It's time we starting a pathway for our young players a route in the first team(if good enough). For me this is the weakest squad, we had since promotion. In terms of strength in depth. Players like Ledley,Kelly,Campbell,lee,mutch and even Delaney are championship players. What's the point in keeping players that nowhere good enough for the first team like Delaney if we're in the prem. The average age of the squad is 28.4 years old. Which will increase keeping the likes of Delaney and speroni. talksport.com/football/every-premier-league-squads-average-age-ranked-oldest-youngest-170322232395?p=4 This squad is by far the strongest since promotion , that comment is laughable , unless of course you think , players like okeefe are better than McCarthur , ramage Better than dann , price better than speroni , kebe better than Sako , Ledley can't currently make the squad and he's better than kg who was first choice , Delaney is now 4th choice centre back and he was first team , infact until we signed dann he was our best cb.
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Dan89 Se25 27 Mar 17 12.55pm | |
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Originally posted by comeonyoueagles20
This squad is by far the strongest since promotion , that comment is laughable , unless of course you think , players like okeefe are better than McCarthur , ramage Better than dann , price better than speroni , kebe better than Sako , Ledley can't currently make the squad and he's better than kg who was first choice , Delaney is now 4th choice centre back and he was first team , infact until we signed dann he was our best cb.
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Dan89 Se25 27 Mar 17 12.57pm | |
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Originally posted by comeonyoueagles20
This squad is by far the strongest since promotion , that comment is laughable , unless of course you think , players like okeefe are better than McCarthur , ramage Better than dann , price better than speroni , kebe better than Sako , Ledley can't currently make the squad and he's better than kg who was first choice , Delaney is now 4th choice centre back and he was first team , infact until we signed dann he was our best cb. The line ups from Boxing Day 2016
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comeonyoueagles20 caterham 27 Mar 17 1.50pm | |
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Originally posted by Dan89
you stated this is the weakest squad in terms of depth since promotion , it isn't , it's the strongest. It may not have been in some areas in the summer , but that has been addressed.
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robdave2k 27 Mar 17 2.00pm | |
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Originally posted by Dan89
About 3 posts earlier you stated So according to you we offer speroni a new deal because of saves he made in 2015. That's was 2 half years ago. Football not a charity case it's a business. Speroni 37 and he had one very good season in the prem. The rest of his best years were in the championship. If you was in charge we'd still have ramage,Murray and jedinak. Get in the real world. You stand still in football. You go backwards.
I'd suggest you understand sod all of the dynamics of human nature as well and as to how groups of people interact with one another. The best players are not always the best leaders and Jedinak wasn't the most technically gifted footballer at the club but he was a personality and a leader and wasn't adequately replaced in that respect either.
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Dan89 Se25 27 Mar 17 2.43pm | |
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Originally posted by robdave2k
About 3 posts earlier you stated So according to you we offer speroni a new deal because of saves he made in 2015. That's was 2 half years ago. Football not a charity case it's a business. Speroni 37 and he had one very good season in the prem. The rest of his best years were in the championship. If you was in charge we'd still have ramage,Murray and jedinak. Get in the real world. You stand still in football. You go backwards.
I'd suggest you understand sod all of the dynamics of human nature as well and as to how groups of people interact with one another. The best players are not always the best leaders and Jedinak wasn't the most technically gifted footballer at the club but he was a personality and a leader and wasn't adequately replaced in that respect either. I didn't once called jedinak crap. Jedinak the best leader we've had in my lifetime of supporting Palace. He was not adequately replaced in the summer window with his leadership and his position. Now we have luka. So let's move on. Edited by Dan89 (27 Mar 2017 2.44pm)
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