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chateauferret  08 Mar 17 7.19pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
From what we saw on TV Mings eyes were following the ball it was not intentional. Can only think the FA know different but in any case 5 weeks is far too harsh. And Mings doesn't seem to be the kind of player who would deliberately jump on someone's head. Never been sent off and last got a yellow card nearly a year ago. Bit like booking McArthur for diving really.
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 Mr_Gristle  In the land of Whelk Eaters 08 Mar 17 8.10pm |
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Originally posted by Salford eagle
It was clear that Mings meant to step on his head! In the lead up to the jump Zlatan is in his line of vision. In the real world if you accidentally stepped on someone's head you'd go back and check if the person was ok! Step back from the United hatred, studding someone's head is a 5 match ban at a minimum. I have no problem with Zlatan getting retribution, one cowardly act deserves another one in my opinion. Bournemouth seem to have a reputation as this lovely little coastal club, they are a dirty team, hate playing against them and hope they go down. Well said. They are a dirty, cheating bunch and no mistake. Still, I can't see why they both didn't get the same length ban.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 08 Mar 17 10.16pm |
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Originally posted by Direwolf
But surely that would mean that no player can ever hurdle another on the ground in case an unintentionally dangerous or reckless situation was created? Completely depends on the situation. In this case clearly it was poorly judged and reckless.
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| palace-metros Redhill 08 Mar 17 11.55pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I think this is totally and utterly ridiculous.It is far from convincing that it was intentional whereas the later incident concerning the elbow certainly appeared to be convincing.Far more clear-cut yet the latter incident results in a 3 match ban and the former 5 matches ! Preposterous. Can't believe I'm going to say this but I totally agree with Willo. I think it's ridiculous to say that Mings action was deliberate. Ibrahimovic however deliberately swung his elbow at Mings' face. When Ibrahimovic brings his foot down after Mings initial tackle, some might think he had a little "stamp" of his own. There's been no talk of that though, has there? Wouldn't be coz it's Manchester aUnited player would it? (I personally don't think that either were stamps). The "impartial" decision made by the FA is about as "impartial" as a lot of key refereeing decisions that are made. Funny how it always seems to be the big clubs that gain most and lose least. Edited by palace-metros (08 Mar 2017 11.56pm)
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| palace-metros Redhill 09 Mar 17 12.00am |
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Originally posted by Salford eagle
It was clear that Mings meant to step on his head! In the lead up to the jump Zlatan is in his line of vision. In the real world if you accidentally stepped on someone's head you'd go back and check if the person was ok! Step back from the United hatred, studding someone's head is a 5 match ban at a minimum. I have no problem with Zlatan getting retribution, one cowardly act deserves another one in my opinion. Bournemouth seem to have a reputation as this lovely little coastal club, they are a dirty team, hate playing against them and hope they go down. Sorry but this is b*ll*cks! It is far from clear. I agree with your comments about Bournemouth but I feel a little uneasy about your post. The Bournemouth player is "Mings". The Manchester United player is "Zlatan". You don't have a second club do you - Salford Eagle? Or is that Salford in Surrey?
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kenbarr  Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 09 Mar 17 1.52am |
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I'm going to try to get into Sweet Fanny's head, dangerous though that might be. Mings "started" the problem with the stamp and Ibra "retaliated." Since the ref, Kevin Friend, missed both Sweet Fanny has decided Mings is the "instigator" and gets and additional two matches. However, if Friend sends Mings off does Ibra elbow whoever is defending on the corner? Obviously Sweet Fanny thought not. My question, does friend get anything more than a verbal for missing two suspendable offenses?
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| spartakev2 Anerley 09 Mar 17 8.52am |
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Originally posted by Direwolf
Having watched the video a number of times I'm not convinced that Ming's actions were deliberate. Yes he looked but I think that was because he knew Zlatan was in his way. When he jumps he is looking at the ball and not at Zlatan's head. Either one believes that his spatial awareness is so good that he can jump on someone's head without looking or more likely that he miscalculated his jump and in addition was pushed off balance by Rooney getting up to winge about the tackle. Ipso facto Rooney should get banned for creating the situation.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 09 Mar 17 9.17am |
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Originally posted by palace-metros
Can't believe I'm going to say this but I totally agree with Willo. I think it's ridiculous to say that Mings action was deliberate. Ibrahimovic however deliberately swung his elbow at Mings' face. When Ibrahimovic brings his foot down after Mings initial tackle, some might think he had a little "stamp" of his own. There's been no talk of that though, has there? Wouldn't be coz it's Manchester aUnited player would it? (I personally don't think that either were stamps). The "impartial" decision made by the FA is about as "impartial" as a lot of key refereeing decisions that are made. Funny how it always seems to be the big clubs that gain most and lose least. Edited by palace-metros (08 Mar 2017 11.56pm) Doesn't have to be deliberate. "Violent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball" Doesn't mention in the rules that it has to be deliberate.
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| palace-metros Redhill 09 Mar 17 11.28pm |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Doesn't have to be deliberate. "Violent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball" Doesn't mention in the rules that it has to be deliberate.
I understand the quote but you still seem to be working from the angle that it was a stamp. I don't know about you but when I jump in the air, my feet eventually come back down to earth. That's all I see here personally. In my opinion, he hasn't used excessive force or brutality against an opponentand therein lies the crux of the matter. I'd be livid if the ban was against one of ours in a similar situation.
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bodge  10 Mar 17 5.50pm |
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For me Zlaten gives Ming a sly dig then when he gets a boot in the head he thinks Mings is getting revenge so he sets out to do him. I would have given Mings the doubt and Zlaten six games.
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| Salford eagle 11 Mar 17 2.31pm |
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Originally posted by palace-metros
Sorry but this is b*ll*cks! It is far from clear. I agree with your comments about Bournemouth but I feel a little uneasy about your post. The Bournemouth player is "Mings". The Manchester United player is "Zlatan". You don't have a second club do you - Salford Eagle? Or is that Salford in Surrey? I don't particularly like united or city. Born in south London mate, the only time I haven't had a season ticket was when I was up at Salford uni, hence the name. If "Mings" had accidentally clipped him he would have checked back to see if he was ok. He knew what he was doing. As for "Zlatan", it's a hell of a lot easier to spell than his surname. Put your mac back on Columbo.
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| palace-metros Redhill 12 Mar 17 1.14pm |
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Originally posted by Salford eagle
I don't particularly like united or city. Born in south London mate, the only time I haven't had a season ticket was when I was up at Salford uni, hence the name. If "Mings" had accidentally clipped him he would have checked back to see if he was ok. He knew what he was doing. As for "Zlatan", it's a hell of a lot easier to spell than his surname. Put your mac back on Columbo. Fair play!. Edited by palace-metros (12 Mar 2017 1.16pm)
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We'll agree to differ then. If I'd been in Mings' shoes and it was an accident, I'd have checked back after the ball was cleared - not during play. And if I'd seen him get up (as he did) I wouldn't have bothered about it. Contact sport, ain't it? 
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