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Joeberto Streatham Hill 26 Feb 17 6.13pm
People around me in the Arthur yesterday were going nuts at Benteke for not constantly closing down in the second half. It was very clear that he was under instructions not to do it. Quite right too - firstly it would just be a total waste of energy as he would be running around on his own against 2/3 defenders. Secondly it would just allow them to easily play around him and create space further up the pitch. When the right opportunity came up/he had other players supporting the press he went for it. He is not especially quick, but he is most certainly not lazy. I know we paid a lot of money but I can't understand why so many people have taken against him so badly?
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Streatham Hill 26 Feb 17 6.13pm

People around me in the Arthur yesterday were going nuts at Benteke for not constantly closing down in the second half.

It was very clear that he was under instructions not to do it. Quite right too - firstly it would just be a total waste of energy as he would be running around on his own against 2/3 defenders. Secondly it would just allow them to easily play around him and create space further up the pitch.

When the right opportunity came up/he had other players supporting the press he went for it.

He is not especially quick, but he is most certainly not lazy. I know we paid a lot of money but I can't understand why so many people have taken against him so badly?

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palaceontheup 26 Feb 17 6.19pm
Originally posted by Dan89 I played football at a semi professional living and watched Palace for 20 years. Wether you agree or not it's an opinion. It shows you how classy you are with your pathetic insult. Explain how he is disinterested then? I gave an example as to how that is bollocks. But you haven proven with you're experience you are far more knowledgeable than me. Hasn't he scored the most goals for a striker for us since we've been back in the prem? Not bad for a disinterested striker. Yannick Bolasie - Glenn Murray - Wilfried Zaha Most exciting attacking trio at Selhurst Park in years.
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26 Feb 17 6.19pm

Originally posted by Dan89

I played football at a semi professional living and watched Palace for 20 years. Wether you agree or not it's an opinion. It shows you how classy you are with your pathetic insult.

Explain how he is disinterested then? I gave an example as to how that is bollocks. But you haven proven with you're experience you are far more knowledgeable than me. Hasn't he scored the most goals for a striker for us since we've been back in the prem? Not bad for a disinterested striker.

Yannick Bolasie - Glenn Murray - Wilfried Zaha

Most exciting attacking trio at Selhurst Park in years.

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Dangermouse Hastings 26 Feb 17 6.34pm
Originally posted by dynamicdick Benteke needs to take a look at some videos of Ian Rush who used to anticipate what defender would receive the ball from the GK and immediately shut him down. I heard Dean Saunders say on the radio the other day that he was regarded as also Liverpool's best defender because of this. On a positive note, if you look st CB's work rate yesterday it was an improvement but still a lot more work to do. Sorry, but comparing him to Rush is wrong. If you want try Zlatan or Berbatov. It's not his game and never will be, but he does far more of it than the two I just mentioned. That's Life And as funny as it may seem Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream. KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!
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Hastings 26 Feb 17 6.34pm

Originally posted by dynamicdick

Benteke needs to take a look at some videos of Ian Rush who used to anticipate what defender would receive the ball from the GK and immediately shut him down. I heard Dean Saunders say on the radio the other day that he was regarded as also Liverpool's best defender because of this. On a positive note, if you look st CB's work rate yesterday it was an improvement but still a lot more work to do.

Sorry, but comparing him to Rush is wrong. If you want try Zlatan or Berbatov. It's not his game and never will be, but he does far more of it than the two I just mentioned.

That's Life
And as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream.
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Dangermouse Hastings 26 Feb 17 6.38pm
Originally posted by slubglurge I thought Benteke was excellent yesterday but he is so isolated at times. Punch is our number 10 and as such our 2nd striker (lol) but is never close enough to Benteke to take advantage of his aerial power. I seriously doubt whether we will see a Puncheon goal this season That's been a problem since we lost Chamakh. We have no one who can play the 10 role. Punch drops too deep all the time and our centre forward is isolated. The only decent performance in the 10 role came from Chungy, second half vs Bournemouth at home. Played in the right areas and fed of Benteke well. Not been played in that position since, might of been worth a spell earlier in the season. That's Life And as funny as it may seem Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream. KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!
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Hastings 26 Feb 17 6.38pm

Originally posted by slubglurge

I thought Benteke was excellent yesterday but he is so isolated at times. Punch is our number 10 and as such our 2nd striker (lol) but is never close enough to Benteke to take advantage of his aerial power. I seriously doubt whether we will see a Puncheon goal this season

That's been a problem since we lost Chamakh. We have no one who can play the 10 role. Punch drops too deep all the time and our centre forward is isolated.
The only decent performance in the 10 role came from Chungy, second half vs Bournemouth at home. Played in the right areas and fed of Benteke well. Not been played in that position since, might of been worth a spell earlier in the season.

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And as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stompin' on a Dream.
KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!

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phillanth London 26 Feb 17 7.11pm
Originally posted by Pete53 Latish in the 2nd half of the Boro game Benteke received the ball in the opposition half with an opportunity to run at goal. However, with the ball at his feet, he looked indecisive - okay he held the ball but was a tad ponderous and in the end laid it off to Townsend who blasted over. quote] In fact he was holding the ball up waiting for support from Townsend, laid it off to him then moved to the far post but sadly Townsend opted to shoot instead of standing him up for him. Good play by Benteke.
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London 26 Feb 17 7.11pm

Originally posted by Pete53

Latish in the 2nd half of the Boro game Benteke received the ball in the opposition half with an opportunity to run at goal. However, with the ball at his feet, he looked indecisive - okay he held the ball but was a tad ponderous and in the end laid it off to Townsend who blasted over.
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In fact he was holding the ball up waiting for support from Townsend, laid it off to him then moved to the far post but sadly Townsend opted to shoot instead of standing him up for him. Good play by Benteke.

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Dan89 Se25 26 Feb 17 8.25pm
Originally posted by palaceontheup Explain how he is disinterested then? I gave an example as to how that is bollocks. But you haven proven with you're experience you are far more knowledgeable than me. Hasn't he scored the most goals for a striker for us since we've been back in the prem? Not bad for a disinterested striker. He plays for himself. lol because he moan at Townsend. I'm not saying Benteke bad player. I'm just saying we need more from him. Not once have I called Benteke rubbish. It shows here that he's weakeness is holding onto the ball, often offside and defensive awareness poor. I'm entitled to my opinion. Like you are to yours. [Link] Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football
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Se25 26 Feb 17 8.25pm

Originally posted by palaceontheup

He plays for himself. lol because he moan at Townsend. I'm not saying Benteke bad player. I'm just saying we need more from him. Not once have I called Benteke rubbish.
It shows here that he's weakeness is holding onto the ball, often offside and defensive awareness poor. I'm entitled to my opinion. Like you are to yours.
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laddo london 26 Feb 17 8.35pm
Benteke will never be the type of forward who will close down full backs and run around like a headless chicken for 90 mins. Yesterday he was ok. I'd love to see him alongside another forward, in fact it is a great shame Wickham got injured when he did because two big lads up top seemed to trouble teams. At palace I've only ever seen AJ consistently scoring goals and closing down defenders. Often forwards 'work hard' to compensate for the fact they're actually not very good. Robson-Kanu is an example of this (damo ive jinxed it for next weekend). Benteke is a very good player. With better service he will score more. Edited by laddo (26 Feb 2017 8.35pm) laddo "People say, live fast, die young. I say live fast, die old. That's me, the non-conformist". David Brent.
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london 26 Feb 17 8.35pm

Benteke will never be the type of forward who will close down full backs and run around like a headless chicken for 90 mins. Yesterday he was ok. I'd love to see him alongside another forward, in fact it is a great shame Wickham got injured when he did because two big lads up top seemed to trouble teams.

At palace I've only ever seen AJ consistently scoring goals and closing down defenders. Often forwards 'work hard' to compensate for the fact they're actually not very good. Robson-Kanu is an example of this (damo ive jinxed it for next weekend). Benteke is a very good player. With better service he will score more.

Edited by laddo (26 Feb 2017 8.35pm)

laddo

"People say, live fast, die young. I say live fast, die old. That's me, the non-conformist".
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Petereagle Brockley 26 Feb 17 9.37pm
Originally posted by phillanth Originally posted by Pete53 Latish in the 2nd half of the Boro game Benteke received the ball in the opposition half with an opportunity to run at goal. However, with the ball at his feet, he looked indecisive - okay he held the ball but was a tad ponderous and in the end laid it off to Townsend who blasted over. quote] In fact he was holding the ball up waiting for support from Townsend, laid it off to him then moved to the far post but sadly Townsend opted to shoot instead of standing him up for him. Good play by Benteke. I agree. No wonder he was p.... off when Townsend blasted over
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Brockley 26 Feb 17 9.37pm

Originally posted by phillanth

Originally posted by Pete53

I agree. No wonder he was p.... off when Townsend blasted over

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Petereagle Brockley 26 Feb 17 9.40pm
Originally posted by laddo Benteke will never be the type of forward who will close down full backs and run around like a headless chicken for 90 mins. Yesterday he was ok. I'd love to see him alongside another forward, in fact it is a great shame Wickham got injured when he did because two big lads up top seemed to trouble teams. At palace I've only ever seen AJ consistently scoring goals and closing down defenders. Often forwards 'work hard' to compensate for the fact they're actually not very good. Robson-Kanu is an example of this (damo ive jinxed it for next weekend). Benteke is a very good player. With better service he will score more. Edited by laddo (26 Feb 2017 8.35pm) At the Championship level, the sainted Glen Murray was the best I've seen, after AJ.
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Brockley 26 Feb 17 9.40pm

Originally posted by laddo

Edited by laddo (26 Feb 2017 8.35pm)

At the Championship level, the sainted Glen Murray was the best I've seen, after AJ.

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HeathMan Purley 26 Feb 17 10.44pm
Originally posted by laddo Benteke will never be the type of forward who will close down full backs and run around like a headless chicken for 90 mins. Yesterday he was ok. I'd love to see him alongside another forward, in fact it is a great shame Wickham got injured when he did because two big lads up top seemed to trouble teams. At palace I've only ever seen AJ consistently scoring goals and closing down defenders. Often forwards 'work hard' to compensate for the fact they're actually not very good. Robson-Kanu is an example of this (damo ive jinxed it for next weekend). Benteke is a very good player. With better service he will score more. I was encouraged by Benteke on Saturday. He has many skills which allow him to cause fear in other teams. This means that they have to allocate minders to him, allowing other team members to do the business. I hope he is saving himself to explode against teams from whom we do not expect to obtain points. I hope he does watch today's Kane and Alli show and decides to do better than them. COYP
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Purley 26 Feb 17 10.44pm

Originally posted by laddo

I was encouraged by Benteke on Saturday. He has many skills which allow him to cause fear in other teams. This means that they have to allocate minders to him, allowing other team members to do the business. I hope he is saving himself to explode against teams from whom we do not expect to obtain points. I hope he does watch today's Kane and Alli show and decides to do better than them. COYP

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jamiemartin721 Reading 27 Feb 17 11.05am
We need more into him. What he does, with the service he gets, has been pretty impressive, but really its down to Puncheon, Townsend and Zaha to feed into him. He's a lone striker, in a team where the only injury free option is Campbell. I suspect he's been ordered not to chase down every defender and 'lost cause'. Last thing we need is him being injured and we need him to be fit for 95 minutes or so per game. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 27 Feb 17 11.05am

We need more into him. What he does, with the service he gets, has been pretty impressive, but really its down to Puncheon, Townsend and Zaha to feed into him.

He's a lone striker, in a team where the only injury free option is Campbell. I suspect he's been ordered not to chase down every defender and 'lost cause'. Last thing we need is him being injured and we need him to be fit for 95 minutes or so per game.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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jamiemartin721 Reading 27 Feb 17 11.08am
Originally posted by Petereagle At the Championship level, the sainted Glen Murray was the best I've seen, after AJ. At championship, I always rated Morrison as one of the best strikers we've had for a long time. Often gets overlooked, but one of the most consistent strikers we've had. Him and Freedman were a great combination. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 27 Feb 17 11.08am

Originally posted by Petereagle

At the Championship level, the sainted Glen Murray was the best I've seen, after AJ.

At championship, I always rated Morrison as one of the best strikers we've had for a long time. Often gets overlooked, but one of the most consistent strikers we've had.

Him and Freedman were a great combination.

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