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When was the turning point?
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Mo Sizlak  15 Feb 17 12.44pm |
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Originally posted by bubble wrap
If we wanted to keep Pulis we could have, He was under contract and has been loyal everywhere else he has been. We were building something under him just like WBA are now. There were clearly issues and Pulis did get caught telling lies but had we backed him that situation would have never arisen. If Pulis got the backing from the club Pardew did he probably would still be at Palace doing a good job. Parish is learning and i bet he regrets letting Pulis go. You're obviously forgetting the court action Parish brought against him. And won.
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 Dan1994 Wallington 15 Feb 17 12.50pm |
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The turning point was my mate started to like football (and by extension, us). We've been absolute s*** since then! On a serious note, it was probably when Pards was made manager, but we all were happy with him then and at Christmas when we were 6th, so who's really to blame?
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 15 Feb 17 1.18pm |
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Originally posted by bubble wrap
The day we let Tony Pulis walk out of the club. Except we didn't, it was even proven in court, that he effectively engineered and manipulated his departure, in an attempt to gain his bonus and be free of his contract. F**k him. Also, we did achieve better under Pardew than Pulis. Whilst I don't doubt that under Pardew the wheels have not just come off, but ceased to be wheels, we never let Pulis leave, he was going whatever. Also, has he paid up yet. We should issue enforcement proceedings and send round the baliffs.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 15 Feb 17 1.22pm |
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Originally posted by Mo Sizlak
I think the turning point came when Pardew was appointed. Twelve of them, an FA Cup final and our best ever position in the premiership. Something more to this than just Pardew I think. To me it looked like the players were more passionate playing for Pardew than they have been for Allerdyce (granted either way we've been s**t for 12 months). I can't think of any reason, why we'd be really good for 12 months, and then really s**t for twelve months, without even a wobble in between. We went from 6th, and being 'serious Europe contenders' to being s**t with nothing in between.
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| kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 15 Feb 17 1.27pm |
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Originally posted by spartakev2
When we didn't strenghen the squad in jan 2016 transfer window.... Agree 100% with this. The wheel had just started to come off a bit and it was quite clear some new blood was needed in that window. Pardews answer to this was Adebayor, who clearly wanted one last payday and had no interest in anything else.
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| victor43 St. Albans 15 Feb 17 1.42pm |
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Can't go back as far as Pulis. Pardew had an incredible first 12 months - we were the 5th best team in the Prem over that period! Pulis, as well as he did for us was only there 6 months or so. Pardew did incredibly well to turn it round for us after Warnock, but then complacency definitely started to kick in. Agree it was stupid hat he said about Cabaye - difficult to know what impact that had though (if any) Biggest error I think was thinking we had a good central midfield - and I include Jedi in that. Jedi, McArthur, Cabaye, Punch - none of these are good solid Prem defensive midfielders. Jedi was a couple of years back definitely. Replace Jedinak with someone like Luka last summer and a lot of problems are avoided. Also we have been very unlucky with Mandanda - they recognised Wayne was a weak link last summer but Steve's only played 9 games. Losing Bolasie was a big blow, but it was the right decision as he wanted to leave and wasn't up for it anymore. Nothing to do with:
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| Mo Sizlak 15 Feb 17 1.50pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Twelve of them, an FA Cup final and our best ever position in the premiership. Something more to this than just Pardew I think. To me it looked like the players were more passionate playing for Pardew than they have been for Allerdyce (granted either way we've been s**t for 12 months). I can't think of any reason, why we'd be really good for 12 months, and then really s**t for twelve months, without even a wobble in between. We went from 6th, and being 'serious Europe contenders' to being s**t with nothing in between.
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| bubble wrap Carparks in South East London 15 Feb 17 2.14pm |
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Originally posted by Mo Sizlak
You're obviously forgetting the court action Parish brought against him. And won. The court action was AFTER he left, My point was and you dont seem to be able to grasp was If the club had stopped Pulis from leaving by backing him fully then we wouldnt be in the position we are. If Pulis had stayed at the club another few days Parish would have lost the court case. Im not backing Pulis, he was a cnut for leaving when he did but things would be a whole lot different now if we kept hold of him.
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| Mo Sizlak 15 Feb 17 2.28pm |
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Originally posted by bubble wrap
The court action was AFTER he left, My point was and you dont seem to be able to grasp was If the club had stopped Pulis from leaving by backing him fully then we wouldnt be in the position we are. If Pulis had stayed at the club another few days Parish would have lost the court case. Im not backing Pulis, he was a cnut for leaving when he did but things would be a whole lot different now if we kept hold of him. I grasp your point and I fully understand it.
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| Midlands Eagle 15 Feb 17 2.35pm |
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Originally posted by Mo Sizlak
He walked out on us. He wasn't given the boot. It could well have been constructive dismissal. No-one knows what went on behind closed doors but that doesn't stop people thinking that they do.
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| Mo Sizlak 15 Feb 17 2.46pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
It could well have been constructive dismissal. No-one knows what went on behind closed doors but that doesn't stop people thinking that they do. So he didn't walk out on us 2 days before the start of the season then?
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| The Dolphin 15 Feb 17 4.25pm |
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It went wrong when Parish kept Pardew after the Cup Final in my opinion.
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