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 Big Guy  04 Feb 17 10.57pm |
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thank fcuk weve got jimmy mac. he deserves better than having to play with punch at the minute
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| mattteo 04 Feb 17 11.03pm |
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Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid
He's been brilliant but is 30 and on his way down. Never a defensive midfielder in a million years and should be a squad player. MacArthur is our best DM by a distance but looks as though he's been shoe horned into the number 10 position through lack of other alternatives. Pirlo played in front of the defence in his last years. He wasn't very different from Puncheon. Thiago Motta does it for PSG, Kroos for Madrid sometimes. Not a defensive midfielder, but a deep lying playmaker. If there are 2 central box-to-box midfielders in front of him, it's doable. All he'd have to do is maintain position and close spaces, as the other 2 midfielders would be the ones doing the tackles. McArthur and Cabaye could be those. But I reckon Allardyce will always play them differently: McArthur and Cabaye lower, Puncheon behind the striker. And not having the necessary pace in that position where you're basically the second striker really damages the pressing and recovery of the team.
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| cpfc1976 Reading 04 Feb 17 11.06pm |
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. Edited by cpfc1976 (04 Feb 2017 11.07pm)
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| cpfc1976 Reading 04 Feb 17 11.07pm |
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Originally posted by cpfc1976
Originally posted by mattteo
'Pirlo played in front of the defence in his last years. He wasn't very different from Puncheon. Thiago Motta does it for PSG, Kroos for Madrid sometimes.'
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 04 Feb 17 11.32pm |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Besides not really liking the man,I still think BFS is the right man for the job. Actually you have a point. Flamini looked bright in the warm up. Ledley is a waste of space and incidentally Pardew's masterstroke vs Stoke, Mboro etc at the start of the season and the only sides we could beat in 12 months under Pardew. He was so wonderful with Jimmac we didn't need Cabaye again. Then........ Cabaye goes off injured and Ledley makes a complete cvnt of himself. Still the solution from Pardew? Some of our fans are fvckling idiots. That t1t was a charlatan.
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| Alex1991 Ashford 04 Feb 17 11.34pm |
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Originally posted by mattteo
Pirlo played in front of the defence in his last years. He wasn't very different from Puncheon. Thiago Motta does it for PSG, Kroos for Madrid sometimes. Not a defensive midfielder, but a deep lying playmaker. If there are 2 central box-to-box midfielders in front of him, it's doable. All he'd have to do is maintain position and close spaces, as the other 2 midfielders would be the ones doing the tackles. McArthur and Cabaye could be those. But I reckon Allardyce will always play them differently: McArthur and Cabaye lower, Puncheon behind the striker. And not having the necessary pace in that position where you're basically the second striker really damages the pressing and recovery of the team. LOL.
"Brighton are talking about how they're coming for us. And it's like, we've been waiting in the Premier League for you for ages." Wilfried Zaha, 2017. |
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Henry of Peckham  Eton Mess 04 Feb 17 11.35pm |
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Puncheon is well past his sell by date. He's too slow and hardly ever passes forward. At fault for one of today's goals ... second or third I think but there were so many!
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| Mstrobez 05 Feb 17 12.46am |
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Originally posted by mattteo
Pirlo played in front of the defence in his last years. He wasn't very different from Puncheon. Thiago Motta does it for PSG, Kroos for Madrid sometimes. Not a defensive midfielder, but a deep lying playmaker. If there are 2 central box-to-box midfielders in front of him, it's doable. All he'd have to do is maintain position and close spaces, as the other 2 midfielders would be the ones doing the tackles. McArthur and Cabaye could be those. But I reckon Allardyce will always play them differently: McArthur and Cabaye lower, Puncheon behind the striker. And not having the necessary pace in that position where you're basically the second striker really damages the pressing and recovery of the team. Lord above you're full of s*** aren't you. Comparing Kroos, Motta and Pirlo to Jason Puncheon. Even in a hypothetical sense they are completely different types of players, Puncheon a winger turned number 10. You cannot play defensive mid (dlp whatever you wanna say) in a relegation threatened team with no strength or defensive abilities and to even play it at the top teams like Pirlo did, your vision and understanding of the game has to be near perfect. You become more deluded and your knowledge gets exposed more by the day. Edited by Mstrobez (05 Feb 2017 12.47am)
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Feb 17 12.51am |
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Has been disappointing for a while.
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| Maine Eagle USA 05 Feb 17 12.55am |
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He is getting axed after that shower of sh&&e today. If nothing else this will put the fear of god into Allardyce that his reputation is on the line and he is going to have to ring the changes. Puncheon was playing so well about 2 years ago, he was class, banging in those free kicks. He is awful now. So many players were puncheon above their weight (boom boom) previously and now are looking worse than they actually are.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Feb 17 1.03am |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
He is getting axed after that shower of sh&&e today. If nothing else this will put the fear of god into Allardyce that his reputation is on the line and he is going to have to ring the changes. Puncheon was playing so well about 2 years ago, he was class, banging in those free kicks. He is awful now. So many players were puncheon above their weight (boom boom) previously and now are looking worse than they actually are. To my mind we needed more in that 'Engine room' other than just a single player.No wonder we are struggling when our squad contains the likes of Ledley,Flamini,Cabaye,Puncheon,Mutch etc etc in that vital area. Edited by Willo (05 Feb 2017 1.03am)
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| Maine Eagle USA 05 Feb 17 1.07am |
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Originally posted by Willo
To my mind we needed more in that 'Engine room' other than just a single player.No wonder we are struggling when our squad contains the likes of Ledley,Flamini,Cabaye,Puncheon,Mutch etc etc in that vital area. Edited by Willo (05 Feb 2017 1.03am) Honestly in my eyes things started to go downhill when we signed Cabaye. We have too many lightweights in the centre of the park for sure. Liked my Puncheon pun so much I started a new thread with it!! Boom boom. I hope this new Serb has some nous about him and can start to drill those around him to just do the basics properly. I would love Tony Pulis back right now.
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