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Mo Sizlak Flag 02 Feb 17 12.34pm

Originally posted by Michaelawt85

He hasn't got to correct it immediately. He can't. No one can. Enough to survive will have to do for now. No distractions of cups or transfers . The result Wednesday is great and I understand why so many of us are clinging to it like our lives depend on it but the fanfare over it and Sam is all a little premature imo. Saturday is going to be a really difficult game. Underestimate it at your peril . Could be back down to earth with a bump come Saturday night. I feel more positive after the signings we have made in this window. The win was a bonus and a much needed one. We need to win to keep pace with the team's around us more than anything else.

This is all Pardews' doing though.
I can't say I hate him because hate is a very strong word and I was brought not to hate.
I believe the correct term is 'despise intensely.'
I despised him intensely when he played for us (along with several thousand others on the terraces) and that intense despisery(Bexleydave) hasn't lessened.

 


Babs and Clean Willie were in love they said....

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Flightsequence Flag 02 Feb 17 12.34pm Send a Private Message to Flightsequence Add Flightsequence as a friend

Originally posted by Nobbybm

Since he joined us we have won double the number of points that we did under AP in the same period last year!

2 more wins this season & he'll have a better record than the same period last year.

6 more wins & we'd be better than the whole of 2016.

And it may still not be good enough to keep us up!

 

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joe_cpfc Flag Basingstoke 02 Feb 17 12.35pm Send a Private Message to joe_cpfc Add joe_cpfc as a friend

Originally posted by Mo Sizlak

But there lies the rub.
We've finally got a quality manager in who knows what he's doing but with the best will in the world he can't put things right overnight.
He's got to correct 2 years worth of damage.

I don't think I can ever recall a manager being expected to perform miracles so quickly as Allardyce since he's been here, Its f***ing unbelievable.Maybe its because we've pretty much got the England set up so expectations are high or maybe people are just f***ing idiots.It seems like some can not wait to jump on him.Someone was caining him the other week for sitting down and chewing gum! I mean who would you rather see chew gum? Allardyce or the previous prima donna wobbly gob t***.

 

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Mo Sizlak Flag 02 Feb 17 12.40pm

Originally posted by joe_cpfc

I don't think I can ever recall a manager being expected to perform miracles so quickly as Allardyce since he's been here, Its f***ing unbelievable.Maybe its because we've pretty much got the England set up so expectations are high or maybe people are just f***ing idiots.It seems like some can not wait to jump on him.Someone was caining him the other week for sitting down and chewing gum! I mean who would you rather see chew gum? Allardyce or the previous prima donna wobbly gob t***.

Yep.
And as for the gum chewing thing...yep.

 


Babs and Clean Willie were in love they said....

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Flightsequence Flag 02 Feb 17 12.41pm Send a Private Message to Flightsequence Add Flightsequence as a friend

Originally posted by joe_cpfc

I don't think I can ever recall a manager being expected to perform miracles so quickly as Allardyce since he's been here, Its f***ing unbelievable.Maybe its because we've pretty much got the England set up so expectations are high or maybe people are just f***ing idiots.It seems like some can not wait to jump on him.Someone was caining him the other week for sitting down and chewing gum! I mean who would you rather see chew gum? Allardyce or the previous prima donna wobbly gob t***.

All I know, is he shouldn't be chewing gum whilst he is doing an inane dance in case he chokes. Now was that Pardew or Allardyce? Seriously though, I like the character that Allardyce has (without the dance) it was the thought of negative play that worried me. However, if we can reproduce the effort and commitment the lads put in the other night, I may even get to like him a bit more. Giving him a little bit more time is a must, but we haven't got a lot left.

 

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Mad4palace Flag 02 Feb 17 12.41pm Send a Private Message to Mad4palace Add Mad4palace as a friend

Originally posted by Michaelawt85

With the amount of financial backing Sam has had in this window if the results in this part of the season are not up to scratch the blame will be squarely on his shoulders. I accept he has inherited pardews squad, some of the injuries and the problems the man left us with but eventually there comes a point where you have to stop living in the past

Agree. There is a little difficulty to overcome with the low confidence levels and supposed fitness issues but Allardyce has been given the tools and transfers to deal with the imbalances in the squad, on top of the fact he has some huge names already within the squad, the kind of which he didn't have at Sunderland. I argued earlier in the season that our squad was marginally weaker overall with the losses of Jedinak and Bolasie being particularly felt. We now have a squad that should be far superior to that of last seasons, with Remy like a new signing, the left side improved, a top rate centre-back and finally a Defensive midfielder as a successor to Jedinak.

There should be no excuses made for Allardyce if he does fail. This is a SUPERB squad now, he's inherited the talents of Cabaye and Benteke that Pardew bought, plus been able to resolve the balance and squad depth issues. I am becoming more confident in Allardyce, the work and changes to training have not helped the results initially but I think our form over the longer term will hinge on the work done in this first month.

 

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smoothmanuel Flag bracknell 02 Feb 17 12.42pm Send a Private Message to smoothmanuel Add smoothmanuel as a friend

Super confident we can get out of this mess and start climbing the table
Big sam has done well he has identified the issues gone out and tried to get what we need to stay up and I think his dealing will prove vital come the end of the season I think Sakho is worth 6 points alone with his vast experience

 

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Mo Sizlak Flag 02 Feb 17 12.47pm

The fact is, we should count ourselves lucky that we've got him.
And Parish has played no small part in that.

 


Babs and Clean Willie were in love they said....

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Sheenewoodeagle1 Flag Ringwood dorset 02 Feb 17 12.51pm Send a Private Message to Sheenewoodeagle1 Add Sheenewoodeagle1 as a friend

We looked organised defensively on Tuesday evening, with a back five that was in a very straight defensive formation for much of the game. The rest of the players, including Townshend when he came on, also worked hard to protect the back five. This is a vast improvement in a short amount of time with the international break and Fa Cup to deal with.Although not generally a fan of managers buying players they have previously worked with, it was clear that Van Aanholt was used to this system and fitted in straight away and very comfortably. He is quick and reads the game well. I am sure that Big Sam will use this formation to good effect away from home and plan to frustrate and pick off the opposition.For me the planning that Big Sam puts into our home games is paramount. A BACK 5, looking to draw in the opposition etc won't work in my opinion.we need to play a bit more on the front foot. We have the players for 4-1-3-2 0r 4-1-4-1 in the squad now with my preference for 2 upfront.
Scoring the first goal is key and I could even see use going to a back five QUICKLY if we go one nil up against Sunderland or anyone at home.
We will see what Saturday brings but I have a feeling that we will gain another three points and at least point from Middlesbrough. A fair return at this stage.....

 


God, it makes me so angry....I am gonna find a little bloke... I'm gonna have a fight!

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Nobbybm Flag Dartford 02 Feb 17 12.58pm Send a Private Message to Nobbybm Add Nobbybm as a friend

Originally posted by Flightsequence

And it may still not be good enough to keep us up!

I know - scary really.

I still think if anyone can it'll be SA though.

 


Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

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Flightsequence Flag 02 Feb 17 1.00pm Send a Private Message to Flightsequence Add Flightsequence as a friend

Originally posted by Nobbybm

I know - scary really.

I still think if anyone can it'll be SA though.

I sincerely hope you are right.

 

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Mo Sizlak Flag 02 Feb 17 1.01pm

I'm sure I read somewhere on here that we should keep Allardyce only if he keeps us up. And then get rid for a younger manager.
Words fail me. And that's hardly ever.
Some of us are turning into West Ham fans.

 


Babs and Clean Willie were in love they said....

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