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Kermit8 Hevon 02 Feb 17 10.10am | |
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Originally posted by Mo Sizlak
That's probably how I come across. He is a good chairman but some of his decision making over the years i just find baffling. The yanks Members only for the FA Cup match v Man City, for example. Let some of the locals and youngsters have a taste of Selhurst and see some top players for the first time ffs. Other clubs have general sales. Why don't we? 7 managers in 7 years too. Think he tries to take too much on by himself. Not spending on youth development and having a proper scouting network. No excuses with all the dosh we have. Edited by Kermit8 (02 Feb 2017 10.13am)
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Mo Sizlak 02 Feb 17 10.17am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
He is a good chairman but some of his decision making over the years i just find baffling. The yanks Members only for the FA Cup match v Man City, for example. 7 managers in 7 years too. Think he tries to take too much on by himself. Not spending on youth development and having a proper scouting network. No excuses with all the dosh we have. But he's been in this job nearly 7 years.
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Mo Sizlak 02 Feb 17 10.23am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
He is a good chairman but some of his decision making over the years i just find baffling. The yanks Members only for the FA Cup match v Man City, for example. Let some of the locals and youngsters have a taste of Selhurst and see some top players for the first time ffs. Other clubs have general sales. Why don't we? 7 managers in 7 years too. Think he tries to take too much on by himself. Not spending on youth development and having a proper scouting network. No excuses with all the dosh we have. Edited by Kermit8 (02 Feb 2017 10.13am)
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Dan1994 Wallington 02 Feb 17 10.25am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
He is a good chairman but some of his decision making over the years i just find baffling. The yanks Members only for the FA Cup match v Man City, for example. Let some of the locals and youngsters have a taste of Selhurst and see some top players for the first time ffs. Other clubs have general sales. Why don't we? 7 managers in 7 years too. Think he tries to take too much on by himself. Not spending on youth development and having a proper scouting network. No excuses with all the dosh we have. Edited by Kermit8 (02 Feb 2017 10.13am) These two bits I agree with. The other two not so much. The Members Only I can understand, because it was vs Man City. Did it not go to general sale eventually (I wasn't here, so I don't know)? With regards to the managers starting with Burley: Burley - crap, Freedman - left for £££, Holloway - left, Pulis - left over dispute, Pardew - well we all know, and now we have SA. I think the board have been excellent on the managerial front. I agree with the other two bits: don't see the point in bringing the Yanks at that point; we could've done it now with more money going in now the prices in English football have enormously inflated. Also, our youth catchment is massive really, and it's a shame our youth academy is very inefficient. Yes, we've produced Zaha and Moses, but our catchment is most of South London, some of Kent, Surrey and Sussex... I don't know the exact populations but it's gotta be in the millions. Overall, though, I think Parish has been absolutely brilliant, and the mistakes he has made have been honest - afterall, who doesn't make mistakes?
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DocSoul 02 Feb 17 10.53am | |
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We're really doing this are we...? This is a man who come from nothing, brought up in Forest Hill, moved to Bromley and has been a life lone Palace fan like most of us. He had the balls to throw in the rat race and start his on reprographics production company (TAG) at a young age and build it into what most of us would call a substantial business. Again having the balls to turn down an offer from Sir Martin Sorrell as he felt that the alignment wasn't right for the business he eventually sold to Williams Lea and could have retired right then. It was him, not the other 3 directors that put together the consortium to buy Palace from the brink of extinction. 3 other directors he barley even knew beforehand. Parish gathered the 4 of them together in an pub in Battersea and decided to save the club that made (at the time) no business sense what so ever. He did all that on his own. I met David Gold (WHUFC) who told me the Palace boys (as he called them) are the nicest guys in football but have no money (in football terms), that's why he sold to the Americans and the reason he did is to move the club on in all aspects as he picked up a broken business. Why did he sell then and not now? Because we have so much stuff that needs doing on and off the pitch and he couldn't hang around for Palace's stock to go up. Even now we're probably get fined as we don't have the correct disabled access. That's not because he can't be bothered to do it, it's because it's a major reconstruction of that area of the stadium. Money he (and the other original board members never had). And you can forget about the signings we just made in Jan if the Americans weren't in situ. That cash hasn't come from the original board or a big pot in the bank at Selhurst from TV money, that's been finance in a large part by the American duo. Palace (in my opinion) currently have the best squad they've ever had and probably the best outside the top 10 teams in the Premiership (subjective point to argue of course). That being said, the infrastructure is stuck in the 1990's. Training ground, gym, admin, marketing, sales, operations, stadium, sponsorship, corporate, back room staff, team travel, contracts, PA, floodlights, youth set up, offices, etc. etc. were all knackered when he took over. The Administrator stripped it all to its bear bones. There was no money. None! That's what Administrators do. He had to build everything up from scratch. Like walking into a derelict home where nothing works and you have a huge mortgage. Is he allowed to make a mistake? I don't know anyone who hasn't, his are just public where yours are probably private. I'll get off my soap box now but I (like most of you I'm sure) remember very well putting coins in buckets at Selhurst to save my club something I hope I never have to do or see again. These men put their hands deeper in their pockets bought a club from Administration and continue to this day to not draw a penny in salary or have their original share hold investment repaid. Remember where we come from, before SP. If it wasn't for him, make no mistake, we wouldn't even be on this forum as we wouldn't exist.
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Mo Sizlak 02 Feb 17 11.07am | |
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Originally posted by DocSoul
We're really doing this are we...? This is a man who come from nothing, brought up in Forest Hill, moved to Bromley and has been a life lone Palace fan like most of us. He had the balls to throw in the rat race and start his on reprographics production company (TAG) at a young age and build it into what most of us would call a substantial business. Again having the balls to turn down an offer from Sir Martin Sorrell as he felt that the alignment wasn't right for the business he eventually sold to Williams Lea and could have retired right then. It was him, not the other 3 directors that put together the consortium to buy Palace from the brink of extinction. 3 other directors he barley even knew beforehand. Parish gathered the 4 of them together in an pub in Battersea and decided to save the club that made (at the time) no business sense what so ever. He did all that on his own. I met David Gold (WHUFC) who told me the Palace boys (as he called them) are the nicest guys in football but have no money (in football terms), that's why he sold to the Americans and the reason he did is to move the club on in all aspects as he picked up a broken business. Why did he sell then and not now? Because we have so much stuff that needs doing on and off the pitch and he couldn't hang around for Palace's stock to go up. Even now we're probably get fined as we don't have the correct disabled access. That's not because he can't be bothered to do it, it's because it's a major reconstruction of that area of the stadium. Money he (and the other original board members never had). And you can forget about the signings we just made in Jan if the Americans weren't in situ. That cash hasn't come from the original board or a big pot in the bank at Selhurst from TV money, that's been finance in a large part by the American duo. Palace (in my opinion) currently have the best squad they've ever had and probably the best outside the top 10 teams in the Premiership (subjective point to argue of course). That being said, the infrastructure is stuck in the 1990's. Training ground, gym, admin, marketing, sales, operations, stadium, sponsorship, corporate, back room staff, team travel, contracts, PA, floodlights, youth set up, offices, etc. etc. were all knackered when he took over. The Administrator stripped it all to its bear bones. There was no money. None! That's what Administrators do. He had to build everything up from scratch. Like walking into a derelict home where nothing works and you have a huge mortgage. Is he allowed to make a mistake? I don't know anyone who hasn't, his are just public where yours are probably private. I'll get off my soap box now but I (like most of you I'm sure) remember very well putting coins in buckets at Selhurst to save my club something I hope I never have to do or see again. These men put their hands deeper in their pockets bought a club from Administration and continue to this day to not draw a penny in salary or have their original share hold investment repaid. Remember where we come from, before SP. If it wasn't for him, make no mistake, we wouldn't even be on this forum as we wouldn't exist. I couldn't agree more with this if I tried my very hardest.
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wonder Madrid 02 Feb 17 11.08am | |
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If all that's true, I feel bad for not getting him a Christmas card.
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Mo Sizlak 02 Feb 17 11.13am | |
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Originally posted by wonder
If all that's true, I feel bad for not getting him a Christmas card. I think you'd do well to remember the Noades, Goldberg and Jordan years.
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Kermit8 Hevon 02 Feb 17 11.19am | |
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I'm sobbing here Before we get too sentimental let this sink in again: £650,000,000 turnover will have gone through the tills (or £700,000,000 if the Yanks' money is added) since 2012 by next Christmas.
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Mo Sizlak 02 Feb 17 11.23am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
I'm sobbing here Before we get too sentimental let this sink in again: £650,000,000 turnover will have gone through the tills (or £700,000,000 if the Yanks' money is added) since 2012 by next Christmas.
Noades, Goldberg, Jordan or Parish. Edited by Mo Sizlak (02 Feb 2017 11.24am)
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Mr Palaceman 02 Feb 17 11.25am | |
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Originally posted by Mo Sizlak
I love the man but he's not perfect. Would have been a bit harsh to sack a manager after your team has just reached only the second F.A. Cup final in it's history. People were comparing him to Coppell before that horrible run. (laughably) SP must have thought, like many others, that the following season would be much better, as he was being backed in the transfer market. The rest is history now. Sam will do us fine for a couple of seasons and then we get in a top, top manager. (If all goes well).
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Mr Palaceman 02 Feb 17 11.30am | |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
He splashed the cash and got some deals done, and hats off to him for that. It was a bit muddled and amateurish if we really did chase 30 players inside a January window, but he stuck to his guns on Jenkinson and if he really was asking for 70k a week that was a good shout. We strengthened in some important areas and Parish recognized that spending 35 mil or so to protect the 100s of millions at stake in the premier league made good business sense. He backed the manager, and he hasnt always done that. I think now is the time to move on. I dont know if Parish will ever be an elite level chairman, in terms of his decision making and leadership, but hes what we have got. Amateurish!!! What are you talking about. If signing Sakho, Milivojevic, Schlupp and Van Aanholt is amateurish, then I would love to see a professional at work. Also when you say he stuck to his guns on Jenkinson. what do you actually know about the deal and why it broke down, even if it was really that close. We are not privvy to what really goes on behind closed doors but we think we do because we read a few website spouting cr@p. In regards to being an 'Elite level Chairmen", again, what are you talking about, what is an elite level chairman? As mentioned previously, he is Chairman of one of the richest football clubs in the world, in the richest league in the world, all from a position of bankruptcy. What would you have to do if that is not enough to be considered amongst the best in your field. And like others have said, tell us which manager he has not backed.
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