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jamiemartin721  Reading 01 Feb 17 2.27pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The unseen is not necessarily absent. Time for example. Does it actually exist or not? It's not all about ghosts and spoon bending. Quite, whilst I am sceptical and wary of the supernatural as an explanation, metaphysics is not just limited to the supernatural. Metaphysics in relation to qualities, is I believe, perfectly acceptable. Existentially, as well, the absence of something, is as relevant as the presence of something in the defining of experience. As reality and the external world can only be experienced subjectively, then both the real and the not real are equally important, provided the not real is known or knowable. If I arrive somewhere, expecting something or someone to be there, their absence is as significant to my experience of reality as their presence would be. Of course this leads us into phenomenology....
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 01 Feb 17 2.31pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
I'm quite happy to dismiss happiness. How, would you dismiss it? Fundamentally, it can only be reduced to correlated phenomena or measurements, which whilst related, are only a part of the whole. Eventually, reductionist approaches must accept that some quality of happiness exists that is 'sublime' in its nature. Although, I do prefer the idea of the hyperthetical concept, over the idea of it being metaphysical.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 01 Feb 17 3.21pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
How, would you dismiss it? Fundamentally, it can only be reduced to correlated phenomena or measurements, which whilst related, are only a part of the whole. Eventually, reductionist approaches must accept that some quality of happiness exists that is 'sublime' in its nature. Although, I do prefer the idea of the hyperthetical concept, over the idea of it being metaphysical. Apparently 'happiness is a field of grain' [Ken Dodd]
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  Hrolf The Ganger 01 Feb 17 3.33pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Quite, whilst I am sceptical and wary of the supernatural as an explanation, metaphysics is not just limited to the supernatural. Metaphysics in relation to qualities, is I believe, perfectly acceptable. Existentially, as well, the absence of something, is as relevant as the presence of something in the defining of experience. As reality and the external world can only be experienced subjectively, then both the real and the not real are equally important, provided the not real is known or knowable. If I arrive somewhere, expecting something or someone to be there, their absence is as significant to my experience of reality as their presence would be. Of course this leads us into phenomenology.... The world of quantum mechanics seems to lend itself to metaphysical interpretation. It appears to to have no rational or measurable quality and to be altered by observation.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 01 Feb 17 4.07pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The world of quantum mechanics seems to lend itself to metaphysical interpretation. It appears to to have no rational or measurable quality and to be altered by observation. Bit like Andros Townsend then.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 01 Feb 17 4.21pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Bit like Andros Townsend then. He did assist the second goal last night. That was almost a supernatural experience.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 01 Feb 17 5.15pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Bit like Andros Townsend then. Very much so. If Andros Townsend, is in the squad, the only possibility of determining if its the prodigious acclaimed England talent, or the fishmonger from Middleton who has only ever once looked at a ball, is to play him.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 01 Feb 17 5.17pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
He did assist the second goal last night. That was almost a supernatural experience. Townsend emulates a quantum particle perfectly. In that its impossible to tell whether it is positive or negative, until you've committed to finding out.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 01 Feb 17 7.50pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Townsend emulates a quantum particle perfectly. In that its impossible to tell whether it is positive or negative, until you've committed to finding out. We don't need Schrödinger. Townsend is never alive in the box.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 02 Feb 17 11.33am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
We don't need Schrödinger. Townsend is never alive in the box. Boom-Tish I love this
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